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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 110 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Your brain naturally presents you with thoughts of scenarios that would bring danger or great distress to you or your loved ones. There's an evolutionary purpose in it that isn't necessarily a secret or slight desire for it to happen.

And, of course, if you have OCD, the feature is broken and plays like an uncontrollable spam-fucking stream of intrusive thoughts that escalate as you try to dismiss them. Also isn't an indication of secret desire or anything like that. Just that specific mechanic of your mind being on the fritz due to a lack of serotonin.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Yep, it's a warning.

If you want the intrusive thoughts, the calls-of-the-void to go away, simply acknowledge the thought, thank it for keeping you safe, and move on.

Yes, you can talk to your thoughts, you can freeze them and interrogate them, ask them why they're there and what they're doing. This is called cognitive diffusion, part of ACT therapy. Eventually, you will find a reason to thank the thought and move on, it's strange but hugely effective. Works on any type of thought.

[–] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, my wife has particularly severe OCD in that regard and was constantly dealing with either little things that were somehow going to lead to one of our deaths, or that "danger function" presenting her with a veritable buffet of self harm options.

Funnily enough, when she finally found a combination of meds that got her OCD more under control we found out that it had been masking pretty bad ADHD her entire life. That was a wild time. Like, it's not that she didn't believe me about my own ADHD symptoms, but it hits different when you're actually experiencing them yourself y'know?

[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a similar problem with OCD, what medications did she find helpful?

[–] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Oh she had to go on a bunch. It was like the Max daily doses of both Prozac and Buspar to get it down to only occupying like 4-6 hours of her day, then they added a tiny dose of Abilify and all that's what finally got it to shut up in all but the worst days.

[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting. They gave me Buspar and it drugged me hard and somehow made me hostile, lol. But Abilify sounds interesting, I had no idea it was used for anxiety. What are the side effects she’s seen or you’ve noticed?

[–] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the only thing she really complained to me about was it boosting her appetite? Hard to remember off the top of my head, I'll have to ask her when she wakes up. But she's also on a tiny dose of the Abilify. Like she started on the first dose on the schedule to titrate up and that tiny amount was enough.

[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, I would really appreciate knowing her thoughts on it as someone else with OCD. As long as I can still function with Abilify, Buspar made me so tired that I started napping for three hours a day, on top of my regular sleep schedule. I’m not even a napper, lol.

Yeah I checked with her when she got up and the appetite boost was the only side effect she had with the Abilify. which was pretty much entirely countered by discovering that her OCD was masking ADHD and getting medicated for that.

But again that might be different for you since she's on a super tiny dose of it.

I'm sure if Buspar doesn't work for you then another one might. The combo for my wife seems to be the combination of the antidepressant, the anxiety medication, and the small amount of anti-psychotic Prozac and Buspar were just the ones she'd had success with previously cutting down the amount of time the OCD is occupying. But I mean there's a reason psych meds are such an ordeal, everyone reacts differently to them.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gosh that sounds like a bull-ride! Huge relationship tax, too...

Well done riding through it

[–] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not as much as it sounds honestly, to her massive credit. She's done a lot of work managing it and I work with her trying to keep it manageable. But that's what partnership is right? She helps me where I struggle, I help her where she struggles.

That's exactly it! Great team work

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I genuinely wonder if it's something that's meant to aid our development of things like empathy too. I only mention it because I remember when I was a child having an intrusive thought, while fishing, of splatting a fish against a cinderblock I could see poking out of the water and actually followed through on it. Hit by INSTANT regret and sorrow. It was a very shitty thing I did but since it still sticks with me I think it did teach me something about the value of animal life. So I wonder if that plays a part--getting kids to do stupid things to learn from them.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This hit a little closer to home than it might have to others. When my son was born in December 2019, one of the first nights I had him alone so my wife could visit a friend, I found myself unable to keep him from crying. At one point an intrusive thought of yeeting him down the stairs popped into my mind and horrified me. I wept alongside him and felt terrible. Told my wife and later my therapists about it.

Even though these thoughts can be normal in high stress/mental fatigue situations, it was still unnerving. Usually, my intrusive thoughts involve only harming myself. I felt comfort knowing that I would never act on it.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

Honestly I think these thoughts are normal to have at any time, at least for me. I ratitonalize it like this: I'm not considering doing something; I'm thinking about something that could happen. They're intrusive!

[–] Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Little tip for all others getting a 24/7 stream of this trash: do not fight them, instead "dismiss" them. "This is a useless thought, Maybe later, I will think about it tomorrow, etc." The more resistance and discipline you present, the stronger the next ones are. By dismissing them, you take their energy away and protect your own mental energy, as they are now super easy to get rid of. Don't think hard mental discipline, let them come and dismiss them, it is still an active thing, but simpler and lower resistance, kind of like Zen meditation.

Edit: typo

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

I'm a system and can confirm that any direct suppression is gonna go wrong. I have the benefit of actually being able to directly talk to those background thoughts' origin points, and work things out from there instead of chaining the regions down. It's how solving a lot of personality disorders works (mostly BPD in our case). It's how we even turned a lot of those regions into forces for good.

Be kind to yourself--not just others.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 days ago

24/7 stream of this trash

Why should we want them gone? They're fun!

Imagine being horrified of your own thoughts. They're you. Just welcome them & delight in their wild machinations.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Nothing changed my perspective on intrusive thoughts like learning they are directly related to mental exhaustion. If you notice them, you need mental rest.

Sleep is helpful but just not doing anything for a little while is helpful too. Sitting around staring into space or looking our a window, no TV, no phone, no book, no shampoo bottle instructions; rawdog reality. Not for super long, 2 or 5 minutes is enough, don't need to push thoughts away or think of nothing or meditate if that's not your thing. Just try doing nothing at all for a little bit, let your brain rest.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just try doing nothing at all for a little bit, let your brain rest.

Make up your mind. My ADHD and anxiety-ridden thought processes are at their MOST hyperactive, self-referential and -blaming when I try to do nothing.

Trying to do nothing with no distractions is just about the most stressful thing you can do to some atypical neuros.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I get you, I also have raging ADHD.

The point is -not- to not think, you can think as much as you want about whatever you want. This is NOT meditation

Just don't be doing or watching something for a few minutes. Listen to silence. Not for a long time, just a couple of minutes is enough.

whenever someone suggest to me that I should “focus on my breathing” it has always had that same effect to me as the meme that goes along the lines of “you suddenly realize that your tongue has never truly had a comfortable place to rest in your mouth”-type of feeling to me during my conscious attempts to control the rate at which I am breathing. esp when there’s someone trying to be a narrator type persona delivering the suggestion, and even more so if I start to feel (for whatever reason) that there is some sort of hope/expectation mixed in with their instruction, that I will be able to safely demonstrate the execution of such a simple yet unfamiliar feat in the moment of suggestion.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

the thing that mentally exhausts me the most is guilt - guilt of undone chores, guilt of unfinished projects, guilt of unfulfilled "potential". attempting to rest when surrounded with guilt is exhausting too

i'm working on it of course, but it's a rather slow climb, with plenty of holes on the way. and if it was just internal that'd be half the problem it is, because on top of all the personal guilt i also need to push back against the culture of grind and constant productivity (which is, in itself, a big source of guilt)

the only way is through ~~unless i give in to the temptation, fake my death, and join a buddhist monastery in tibet or something idk~~

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

til i'm always mentally exhausted

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I'm sorry mate but I'd be resting 24/7 then. I just kinda let them flow and not act on them

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

That's just not true. I have intrusive thoughts whether I am rested or not.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump just acts on the intrusive thought.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Trump's intrusive thoughts are looking at him, horrified.

[–] IlmariGanander@lemmy.wtf 19 points 3 days ago

I read somewhere that for some people they also get better with age.

And for me that was true. My intrusive thoughts were worse as a teen and twenty something than now.

Then as I matured I relaxed, and also got proof from my own past behavior that I don't act on any of it, which made me relax more.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s just your brain warning you about bad things that could happen. Only brains don’t give a pop up notification, it’s just streams of thoughts and sensations. That’s how I’ve chosen to interpret my intrusive thoughts, anyway.

[–] Duranie@leminal.space 13 points 3 days ago

The way it was explained to me -

I'm walking on the roof of a building, carrying my baby. I get the intrusive thought to yeet the baby over the edge. Result - I recognize the horrible thought, causing me to hold the baby tighter and remove us from the roof, thus keeping us both safer.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I always saw it as our minds considering all possibilities.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah it's one of those "things that separate us from (most) animals. We can ask "what if" and simulate the probable result with a decent amount of accuracy completely internally. It's a really cool feature if you know what to do with it, it's just sometimes it runs some really weird simulations "just in case."

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Call of the void

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

If anyone's having thoughts like this; it's completely normal. Rest assured, I have thoughts like this multiple times a day, and I don't even have a newborn.

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

The line between good and evil cuts thru the heart of of us all.

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm 40 now and just recently found out about my intrusive thoughts. I have them from multiple sources, and the ironic thing about that is that the trauma caused by mental disorders can also cause intrusive thoughts. My intrusive thoughts cause themselves, the bastards.

I thought my horrible thoughts just meant I was a horrible person. I had a life-changing moment recently when I watched the comedian Jordan Jensen talk about her OCD on stage. She also has thoughts about harming her pet. I would never actually hurt my cat but the thoughts made me hate myself. Hearing Jordan be that honest about it was like receiving decades of therapy in just a few minutes.

[–] MattW03@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean who hasn't thought of a baby in the blender at least once, right?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 3 days ago

I had a thought like that and it's so messed up I would literally be scared to share it anywhere because once it's out there someone might actually do it and then I would feel responsible. But good to know it's normal.

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

*Throw, the word is throw.