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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Would you take universal healthcare provided by Facebook, but they get to keep all your medical data?

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

Heh good question. If the healthcare is literally good. but yeah wth are they gonna do with the data

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

You ever see that black mirror ep Common People?

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

We are just resources to be used and discarded, objects and not people.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Shame they have the skills to create those things but not the skills to understand nobody wants it

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

It wasn’t even obvious how to get into this thing. We got a Quest headset, the kids use the heck out of it for gaming and hanging with friends, and I poked around in it trying to find this Zuckerberg World and you have to work to find it. I mean, if he wanted this thing to be big it should be the default, but nope. Anyway, the headsets are a ton of fun for gaming with others, but as far as VR interaction with other’s avatars for the purposes of social interaction? Nope.

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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 39 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I mean, it was doomed from the beginning. There was no vision, no problem to be solved, no benefit for the user.

Why would the world need this VR space? For meetings or chats? We have virtual meetings and this adds nothing of value. For games? The graphics are bad (to allow more people to use it) and there are better VR games. For companies to advertise? You would need something to get people to go there.

They should have created a benefit for the user first and if that is successful add more.

They could have started with a Sims clone or a WOW clone to get people interested and invested before adding the rest. Selling virtual land only makes sense if it's worth something.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 16 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It is weird that nobody pointed out to him that a meeting in VR is worse than a Zoom call in every practical way. I guess he reached the “surround yourself with Yes-Men” stage too long ago.

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[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, if they had created for example a 'second life' clone with a very lax custom content policy it would have drawn in the pervert community to build their dream harem / larp orgies AND the house builder / interior design community AND the second life larper community.

The question is, if big companies would still have wanted to advertise there. At least the virtual land would have been a bit more interesting.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

One thing I would love for the Quest to be able to do would be to create a 3D model of my home’s interior and let me do things like knock down walls or place furniture.

There’s no technical reason it can’t do this except that nobody’s done it because it’s been pitched as a collaboration/NFT selling tool.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So apparently facebook is funding research into that, still: https://facebookresearch.github.io/ShapeR/

Who knows what they'll actually do with the tech.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I’m glad they’ve at least thought of it, but I’m amazed they didn’t think this was a killer app for VR. Just the real estate market alone would have been huge.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 16 hours ago

Kinda ironic that he got the enshittification order right with facebook and instagram, but completely forgot it for VR. You need the people first, then you start banning porn to be "family friendly" and nice with big companies

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

To play the devil's advocate: this did happen during the crypto rush, when huge monetary value was assigned to nothings. If you buy into the idea that a JPEG of a monkey created by some algorithm brute-forcing KiSS can be worth a small fortune - it's not hard to see how VR "real" estate can be valuable.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Digital nothing CAN have value. Like imagine having a central plot on a long running popular Minecraft server, or having a large housing plot in final fantasy XIV, or a sick mount in WoW or any other MMO. The thing is that those are desirable not just because they're limited, but because the game is a desirable place to begin with. Artificial scarcity with nothing backing it is useless, like monkey jpegs and beanie babies.

So if the metaverse wasn't dogshit and actually drew in at least tens of thousands of regular users, yeah he could've made some money selling digital real estate. Instead, he led with "you can buy real fake land!" with no real reason other than exclusivity.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They could have created a whole grand theft auto level city and filled it with real people for cheaper wtf

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You know how difficult it is to create 3D legs?!

Oh not difficult at all? Yeah well it cost them a bazillion dollars!

Oh you think that's funny?!

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

You know how difficult it is to create 3D legs?!

Without tracking actual legs? Reverse kinematics is pretty tricky (but obviously not impossible)

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago (23 children)

John Carmack had some choice words when he left Meta.

"We have a ridiculous amount of people and resources, but we constantly self-sabotage and squander effort. There is no way to sugar coat this; I think our organization is operating at half the effectiveness that would make me happy.

"It has been a struggle for me. I have a voice at the highest levels here, so it feels like I should be able to move things, but I’m evidently not persuasive enough. A good fraction of the things I complain about eventually turn my way after a year or two passes and evidence piles up, but I have never been able to kill stupid things before they cause damage, or set a direction and have a team actually stick to it. I think my influence at the margins has been positive, but it has never been a prime mover."

Imagine getting John Carmack on your project and ignoring him. Like, what was the point? Zuck got lucky in the beginning and was cut throat enough to hold on to it, but he has no entrepreneurial talent.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

He had it. Once.

After that, he's just another mogul with tons of money trying to impose his products by abuse of predominant position.

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[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just realised what Zuck looks like in the metaverse: the evil kid from toy story!

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago
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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 142 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Ummm no? I recall many news outlets shitting on the metaverse from day 1.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

$73G to make VR Miis with no legs

Meanwhile, VRChat:

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This just proves any VR project without any trans people is doomed to fail

[–] med@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago

Who else could know what it's like to walk in another's skin and see a face you don't recognize in the mirror?

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean he just pumped that money into the US and Chinese economy. It's not like he lit a pile of money on fire like the Joker. Most of that money went into salaries of the people doing R&D and manufacturing of the headsets in China. Lets hope the Zuck has a dozen more of these failures.

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