Exactly, that’s why I hate politics they just like to politicize everything. Even if he was left or right instead of fighting we should focus on the mental health epidemic(I believe that’s the right word).

It’s like how people sue gun companies for shootings instead of thinking the person who did the shooting is mentally ill

Likely based on his texts with his transwoman roommate.

I heard that on a podcast on the way home, laughed, then realized that a lot of people would believe that. Then it wasn't funny anymore.

At this point I don't really entirely believe anything that I've heard and I think that's exactly what they want.

They were always going to blame it on the left. Facts don’t matter to rightists, only keeping control of their followers. All of Lemmy called it the moment the assassination happened.

The politicians just want to continue spreading fear no matter the side imo. I hate how they want to argue instead of trying to unify us (which is what they seem scared to do cuz a unified nation will turn against them)

Earlier in the briefing, Gray said investigators had spoken to Robinson’s mother, who said her son had, over the last year “become more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro-gay and trans rights-oriented”.

He disclosed that the exchange with the roommate then began to explore a motive.

“Roommate: ‘Why?’ Robinson: ‘Why did I do it?’ Roommate: ‘Yeah."’ Robinson: ‘I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it,’” Gray said.

I think the motivation is pretty clear at this point. Not sure how this post got 1k+ likes and no one seem to give credible source.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/charlie-kirk-shooting-prosecutor-utah

I will point out one thing that should be obvious, the shooter was only 22. So it's possible he doesn't have a very baked and stable political ideology. I knew a hard core outwardly homophobic conservative at 17 who came out as gay and did theater by 20. I knew a fairly liberal person when she was about 18 that over the years got to a place where she publicly praised Trump and called COVID a hoax and the vaccine a conspiracy. No idea how that happened, even as I saw it first hand.

Given the situation, it is at least clear he was unhinged if he would get to this point, either way. I would have hoped this would be a lesson for people that people get dangerously moved by angry rhetoric, but a lot of folks are ramping up rhetoric instead.

We don't have confirmation on all of his motives yet; however what we do know about the shooter, his upbringing, lifestyle, etc. is that the poster responding to OP in the image above is largely correct.

There are indeed conflicting accounts that his roommate was trans, or his partner was, or similar. None of that's been verified yet, and even if so, it doesn't explain the shooter's motivations.

What we do know about the shooter is that he largely fits the model of a deeply conservative republican, and that fits with how he was raised, his family, and as his grandmother puts it: "Their family was all MAGA".

Going off that, and a lot of other circumstantial details/evidence, it's clear that he was at one point a deeply MAGA character.

Beyond that or what his current motivations are? We can only extrapolate. Those extrapolations largely lead in the direction that he shot Kirk because Kirk didn't back some of the same extremist beliefs he held. Those beliefs are similar to what Nick Fuentes believes in, which is also why he's currently being labeled a Gyroper.

I wouldn't trust anyone describing his political leanings or motives until court. It's being twisted around and rumors are spreading like wildfire in a vacuum of actual leadership.

My sentiment is the same.

To be blunt, Lemmy is a terrible place to ask.

I’m glad he’s gone but this is just what the right needs to go full force Nazi as we have rightly known since it occurred.

Antifa is such a strange concept to me because doesn't it stand for Anti-fascist? So making Antifa your enemy means you are fascist

The number of similarities between modern America and 1930s Germany is shocking.

I believe the assassination of Kirk is highly analogous to the killing of Horst Wessel. Both Wessel and Kirk were far right nationalists who were killed and subsequently hailed as martyrs by their fascist movements.

Hitler brought up Wessel in all of his early speeches. The Nazis wrote songs and bullt statues of Wessel. And today we can already hear the songs about Kirk. Congressmen are passing around a bill to erect a statue of Kirk in the Capitol.

If we continue to follow this timeline closely, we are about 2 years away from our own Reichstag fire moment.

Imperial Japan is the only country in modern history to become a Fascist Theocracy. Under Project 2025, the USA is following a similar path. I always pointed to Germany, Italy and Spain, but they did not beat the Japanese in the fucked up realm of fascism.

they love antifa because they can point at anything they don't like and scream antifa, and now law enforcement will fall on it.

fucking fascists.

They are fascists.

Period.

They fit the definition.

They are fascists.

They might be stupid fascists that don't even know it, but that doesn't change that they're fascists.

People really are that out of touch with reality.

there's a portion that are ignorant sure. and there's a portion that leverages that ignorance as a shield to deny their fascist motivations.

they're both awful.

I'm open to suggestion!