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[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he "Had enough of Kirks hatred" in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

How is any of this right wing?

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 minutes ago

Hey, checking the facts isn't welcome here!

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Being pro-gay and protrans doesn't necessarily mean that you're not right-wing. It just means you don't share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.

If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he's not right wing.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -2 points 49 minutes ago

Deranged take, touch grass

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

So how do you know he's right wing?

Edit: Also how do address the hate comment? And justify him killing Kirk for not being far-right enough?

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 3 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

To a Nazi, anything less than pure, unadulterated Nazism is "left-leaning".

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -2 points 34 minutes ago

You could be characterized the same way.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

“Right wing” still isn’t specific enough, as that also includes democrats.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -1 points 38 minutes ago

Just to be clear, he was obviously part of the same way of left wing thinking that holds the following opinions:

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

As far as I've been able to figure out, the kid was neither right nor left, just fucked in the head.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago

He was left.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, that’s why I hate politics they just like to politicize everything. Even if he was left or right instead of fighting we should focus on the mental health epidemic(I believe that’s the right word).

It’s like how people sue gun companies for shootings instead of thinking the person who did the shooting is mentally ill

[–] Corndog@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

... Politicize everything? A guy killed a political figure for political purposes at a literal rally.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

My bad, what I actually meant was politicizing to fit their narrative. As tragic as this event was the right and left are just pointing fingers at each other which doesn’t help things.

[–] imouto@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

KILL

Pardon my ignorance but is this actually banned on some dumbass platform?

[–] DiskCrasher@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

They now claim he was "left leaning". It's a war of propaganda.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 0 points 20 minutes ago

What are your reasons for thinking he was on the Right?

My understanding is that everyone who has publicly spoken about him has indicated that while he was raised in a Republican family, he himself held strong Left views. His friends/classmates have indicated he had become very vocal about this and regularly got into arguments over it. He was in a relationship with a trans individual which is a decidedly Left behavior. More than that he murdered a Republican poster boy because of his ideology (as indicated by Tyler himself).

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Likely based on his texts with his transwoman roommate.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I heard that on a podcast on the way home, laughed, then realized that a lot of people would believe that. Then it wasn't funny anymore.

At this point I don't really entirely believe anything that I've heard and I think that's exactly what they want.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -2 points 58 minutes ago

It's not funny that people believed he was a groyper. This was such an obvious thing that you need to talk to a psychiatrist about it.

[–] lemmyprnt@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Robinson’s mother told police that her son had “began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders,” the court document said. 

And she said that over the past year or so, Robinson had become more political and had “started to lean more to the left – becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented,” according to the documents. 

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They were always going to blame it on the left. Facts don’t matter to rightists, only keeping control of their followers. All of Lemmy called it the moment the assassination happened.

[–] lemmyprnt@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

His mom literally said that her son shifted left and got into arguments with his father about politics. How does it feel to be on the side of lies and disinformation?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

I see your account is brand new. Whether you’re a Russian or Chinese operative, a MAGA propagandist, or just extremely gullible, the Fediverse is probably not the place for you.

[–] lemmyprnt@lemmy.world -1 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

I'm gullible because I am trusting his mother's statement over your conspiracy theory? Lol ok.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

no it would alienate thier base, if they blame the right wing group associated with fuentes. the gop could lose seats if they start recognizing that a right winger is the shooter, and those supporters would turn on them in a second. they are also finding it difficult to blame the left, because almost none of the political violence is caused by the left in the first place, except for rare instances.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 52 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (20 children)

Is this actually true? There's too much disinformation about the shooter, his motivations, his identity, his family, his partner going around that I have no clue what to really believe about him.

(Please, nobody respond to this comment telling me "that's exactly what they want" without providing a credible source for your claims about the shooter. If you do provide sources, then you are welcome to make fun of me for being skeptical.)

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago

Earlier in the briefing, Gray said investigators had spoken to Robinson’s mother, who said her son had, over the last year “become more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro-gay and trans rights-oriented”.

He disclosed that the exchange with the roommate then began to explore a motive.

“Roommate: ‘Why?’ Robinson: ‘Why did I do it?’ Roommate: ‘Yeah."’ Robinson: ‘I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it,’” Gray said.

I think the motivation is pretty clear at this point. Not sure how this post got 1k+ likes and no one seem to give credible source.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/charlie-kirk-shooting-prosecutor-utah

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

The politicians just want to continue spreading fear no matter the side imo. I hate how they want to argue instead of trying to unify us (which is what they seem scared to do cuz a unified nation will turn against them)

[–] RonniePickering@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

That is utter bullshit. The right is wanting to go door to door and kill democrats and keep saying this is war. The left is saying we dont condone this kind of abhorrent behavior. They are NOT the same at all.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The oligarchs want that, and the oligarchs have many politicians in their pocket I presume. However, it's not like non-corrupt non-bought politicians have any reason to be afraid of a unified nation -- they're in politics to effect change in the first place.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Ik just feels like they don’t care. Overall I just hate all this in fighting makes it hard to get stuff done when you point fingers and shit

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 minutes ago

yeah, I agree. But like, pointing fingers at "politicians" broadly speaking is still just pointing fingers.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 28 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I will point out one thing that should be obvious, the shooter was only 22. So it's possible he doesn't have a very baked and stable political ideology. I knew a hard core outwardly homophobic conservative at 17 who came out as gay and did theater by 20. I knew a fairly liberal person when she was about 18 that over the years got to a place where she publicly praised Trump and called COVID a hoax and the vaccine a conspiracy. No idea how that happened, even as I saw it first hand.

Given the situation, it is at least clear he was unhinged if he would get to this point, either way. I would have hoped this would be a lesson for people that people get dangerously moved by angry rhetoric, but a lot of folks are ramping up rhetoric instead.

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