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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Y'all remember when ISIS attacked that theater in Russia and Russia immediately blamed Ukraine despite ISIS openly admitting to it and begging for recognition?

Yeah, this is more of the same from the party of Putin's professional cock holsters.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 43 minutes ago (2 children)

We can agree that the right wing is trying to use Kirk's death as casus belli to start a civil war against us. We are in a dangerous position right now.

But at the same time we can also choose to NOT spread misinformation like this. No, we don't know right now what political leaning the killer has. If anything, if the evidences released by the investigation can be trusted, he is more likely to be left leaning.

Yes, the right spreads misinformation all the time to further their goals. But I think we can do better.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

What evidence? So far, none of it says he is a left winger. Everything we do know points to a MAGA family and village of similar idiots with violent tendencies and a gun-loving way of life.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

Multiple people who were interviewed said he was getting into leftist politics, he called Charlie Kirk a "fascist". He had a MTF trans girlfriend. These are not typical MAGA traits. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99g1e0z2ero

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

Multiple people know him as from a. Rightwing family, he was photographed in MAGA gear, and plenty of MAGA are secretly gay.

None of what you’ve said is even minutely comparable to the Lin tian of evidence that says he’s a rightwing abused child from a MAGA family.

He’s also a registered Republic卐n.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 points 28 minutes ago

Specifically what evidence released by the investigation do you feel characterizes the alleged killer as left-leaning? I have not seen any such evidence.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

His Mom said he had become more political lately. Specifically left-leaning, pro-gay and pro-trans. He left a note for his trans roommate that he was going to assassinate Kirk. He said that he "Had enough of Kirks hatred" in his discord chat and inscribed pro-trans, gay and antifascist rhetoric on the bullets.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-texts-motive-b2827814.html

How is any of this right wing?

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So, far right parents in a conservative religion in a Republican town in a Republican state produced a child so tortured by a culture of hate and violence that as soon as they even start to lean either way their instinct is murder. Breaking the cycle of hate is relatively easy compared to breaking the cycle of violence. The statements they made to their roommate (even if that heresay is true) just confirm that they were a troubled child from a troubled culture trying to change. It should surprise no one that those childish attempts would be a VERY twisted reflection of the ideal. So no, he was not part of the left. Just a child in pain reacting the only way their conservative upbringing taught them.

[–] lemmyprnt@lemmy.world 0 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

No true scotsman. Being against ideas of the right and killing someone for espousing them ipso facto is left wing.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 12 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Being pro-gay and protrans doesn't necessarily mean that you're not right-wing. It just means you don't share the commonly held out groups. Unusual, yes, but a tell, not really.

If he was dropping some Marxist stuff, was interested in taxing the rich, or universal healthcare, then I would say he's not right wing.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 hours ago

Deranged take, touch grass

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So how do you know he's right wing?

Edit: Also how do address the hate comment? And justify him killing Kirk for not being far-right enough?

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

To a Nazi, anything less than pure, unadulterated Nazism is "left-leaning".

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You could be characterized the same way.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

No, not really, I mean some tankies out there are like that, but then again if your logic is on the level of tankies you're most likely wrong. A right wing shooter killed Kirk, that's just a fact.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Can we get a link from The associate press or Reuters and not a British tabloid.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago

Hey, checking the facts isn't welcome here!

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