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[–] inkzombie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (46 children)

The people who flooded the subreddit with sorry are fucking dumb.

And when you blame all Americans, this is what you sound like:

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The funny part to me is the people who actually support Trump are laughing their asses off that the euros are mad. They love it more than they love owning the libs. Hate is what they based their entire personality around, you cannot out-hate a fascist.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

But you can out murder them. See: Germany.

Maybe we should try that again.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Currently adult Americans had like ten different elections that allowed them to not end up in this mess. They failed like 8 of those, so here we are.
The amount of blame is directly proportional to the amount of agency people had. US was, until very recently, a democracy. A bit shitty one, but still, so everyone who was of a voting age share some of that responsibility.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

God, this is how so much of the internet feels right now. We're all staring down the barrel of a gun, but God forbid we say anything out of turn or it's #NotAllAmericans until your screen explodes.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

The post from yesterday about the Greenland subreddit was very telling. Greenland and by extension Europe is threatened by America, Americans that don't share the blame, sure, go to a subreddit and flood it with "sorry" posts. That pisses people actually from the subreddit because it's counter productive, so they complain.

Suddenly Americans on Lemmy are pissed at them because how dare they get pissed at us "showing empathy"! Nah, empathy would. Be to shut the fuck up, empathy would be to recognise that flooding a subreddit with "I'm sorry" posts is annoying at best. The gall of those people to say "how date Greenland era not want us having empathy" when their actions don't actually show it... Sickening.

Then there's all of them that seem hurt by us outsiders lumping them all together. I get that, I get that y'all didn't really have a choice, really. Y'all need to get that when tensions are this high, people are not gonna use the most correct wording and as the ones in risk of being invaded, they reserve the right for being impolite to all the other Americans by generalising.

The entitlement that Americans in general have that we outsiders need to consider their personal situation before generalising them when the situation is this fucking critical... No. Grow some skin and get used to be generalised if your government is the one invading, even if you didn't have a choice. Sorry to say but bad luck, you are gonna catch some strays.

I say this as a man that has to read generalised hate towards men by women and the LGBT community because they don't have the energy to use the most proper wording. It's fine. Energies are high, people are venting. We are not talking about you personally.

Complaining that you catching stray shots from potential invadees makes y'all looks so much worse.

Btw, sorry if I used a lot of "you" when referring to Americans in this reply, while not referring to you, Voroxpete. I hope my wording was clear.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I said it on another post, the people of Rotterdam looking at the nazis marching on their city were not responsible for the feelings of the innocent Germans who didn't support hitlers rise to power. These Americans who think they are so special they deserve to be grouped separately by the victims of their country are just like the people who post "thoughts and prayers" when something horrible happens.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with the sentiment, but you left out a few crucial words.

the people of Rotterdam looking at the nazis marching on the rubble of what was left of their city were not responsible for the feelings of the innocent Germans who didn't support hitlers rise to power.

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[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Americans and I say this as an American. Are first and foremost retarded beyond all releasing when it comes to understanding that empty empathy and apologies are worse then saying nothing at all.

As much as it's the stereotype to say Canadians say sorry all the time, in reality it's Americans.

Americans will apologize for ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. Because we are taught that sorry fixes everything. Words are cheap and actions are hard.

And if you tell them sorry won't cut it, then it's straight to being pissed and blaming everyone else. Not fixing it, not admitting empty platitudes are insulting. No no, it's your fault for not expecting the sorry with no action to back it up.

It's the most annoying fucking thing.

Americans need to learn to shut up, sit down, and realize if our leadership fucks up. We all fuck up. That's the entire point of democracy. We are in this together for better or worse. If we don't like it then we need to shut the fuck up and go actually do something about it. Words are cheap.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah idk, do they not realise that what they are doing is a classic "thoughts and prayers"? With more words for sure, more polite yes but... In terms of actions, that's it.

It was appalling to read the live reaction of so many people, the most upvoted ones ofc because American presence in Lemmy is a supermajority. Anyway, good luck.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Perfectly clear, and yeah, that's my thoughts exactly.

It feels like a lot of them really want to be told how good and wonderful and kind and smart they are for not voting for this bullshit. But it's not our job to make them feel better about themselves while their government threatens to hurl the world's largest military at us.

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 34 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I didn't vote for this shit, in fact I voted and warned against it for 3 elections in a row.

Sadly 1/3 of Americans actively support this shit, while.another 1/3 were more than happy to sit back and let it happen.

Americans at large deserve this. I have to constantly remind myself that this is what people in this country voted for, and it's only right for us to suffer the consequences of our elections, otherwise people here will never learn. I do feel sorry for the people who get caught up in this stupidity, but there are too many Americans who are shielded from the consequences of their words and actions.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

I have to constantly remind myself that this is what people in this country voted for

*What they accepted. There are a lot of ways to help fascists that don't involve voting for them and aren't mutually exclusive with voting against them. Fascism takes a lot more work on both sides of the aisle than just winning an election, and I for one am not letting the DNC apologists off the hook.

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[–] LunaA@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm a trans American sitting here everyday wondering when they will send me to a fucking camp or prison for existing. The problem is that it's only people like me who ever go out and do anything because Americans are selfish as fuck. Anything that doesn't directly affect them is a non-issue. I'm not sorry to the world because I've been protesting, speaking out, and generally being defiant for years. Anyone who says they are sorry are the same idiots who send thoughts and prayers.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

I'm a rich straight white American man and I'm out here protesting too. You're not alone, that's how they want you to feel so you give up.

But yeah, most Americans are out here being damned slugs unwilling to slightly inconvenience themselves for the future of the country.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"tHiS iS nOt WhAt I vOtEd fOr"

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 25 points 2 weeks ago

The harder part isn't that I didn't vote for it, but the sheer numbers that support it. It represents more of this country than I ever would have imagined. And I've gotten to listen to people in person use completely psychotic taking points that are fed to them. It's so disheartening how stupid so many people are

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Man I was hoping someone in the comments would translate that insanity, but damn 😂

Thought that was a clip from a kids show at first. Nope!

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's a clip from a kids movie. :)

It's called "Terkel in Trouble"

I see that Wikipedia labels it an "adult movie", but it certainly wasn't treated or thought of that way in Denmark.

[–] MischFarls@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I feel like we’re all missing the point here. Sure, most people probably didn’t want THIS to happen, and want to distance themselves from the those who voted for him most recently. The reality is way more layered than that. It’s not just those that voted for him once, or even twice. All of our actions and inactions that led to the politicians and presidents prior to this being elected, allowed the policies and loopholes for this to happen. And so much more! This should have never been an option for us to choose. We all helped in some capacity whether we realize it or not. It’s now impacting the rest of the world more clearly than ever, and they’re mad. They should be. We need to do better.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How the fuck did I help? I gathered signatures for the 2020 primaries in Mississippi. I moved from Mississippi to Washington to get out of the cesspool. I got involved in my local elections. I canvassed for my local progressive politicians. I went to protests to be a part of one of the largest American protests of my generation. It’s not my fault that I wasn’t born in Africa to an emerald mine family to be able to buy large media corporations and spew bullshit and buy elections. It’s not my fault that people are corrupt up top.

This is giving major “yet you participate in society” vibes.

[–] MischFarls@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

That’s amazing, we need more people like you to do all that work. It just seems like, rather than taking the opinions of people online so personally, we should take what’s going on personally. It sounds like you worked your butt off to inform people and encourage them to vote and do the right things, but we still ended up here. We fail as a whole, and we succeed as a whole. Right now we’re failing.

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[–] Hoimo@ani.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's been a slow decline over many years, and it's been painful to watch, but it's also very hard to turn a ship as big as the US.

I think it's unfair to blame present-day Americans for the current state of affairs, when millions of Americans in 2003 protested the Iraq War and didn't get any result, when the DHS was already cracking down on peaceful protests in 2012 and since then it's been 4 years of an openly fascist government who'd never be swayed by protest, followed by 4 years of "healing" (but mostly pandemic). And I wouldn't say the Americans have been complacent in the last year, it's the most chaotic shit I've ever seen, with already 2 political assassinations and a string of massive protests.

It's easy to think people did more in the past, but we only get the highlights in the history books. An assassination defines a decade. It takes years of organizing to get a victory.

So don't blame the current generation, America's been pretty fascist for 25+ years and very resistant to change. I just hope this is their opportunity to change it for the better.

[–] MischFarls@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely, all fantastic points! And thank you for linking. Is going to take a lot of time and work to turn this around.

I agree, it would be unfair and inaccurate to blame the current generation, when we have octogenarians still in office that won’t leave. It took generations of humans to get us to here, and that really is the point. We all thought that the system was supposed to work and people were going to follow the rules, but that didn’t happen. Most of us thought that there would be redundancies in place to stop this extreme situation from happening, but there wasn’t. And if there was, they didn’t work.

To your point, there have always been fascists in office. It’s not new. The groundwork was already laid when this admin got in there. That’s why it was so easy for all of this to happen.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I also get swamped with downvotes when I tell people the objective fact that far, far more of us are responsible for the state of things than anyone wants to admit.

The chief sin we all carry is lack of involvement with our local and state governing, or even just basic community-building. We ignored warning signs, we set the problems aside in our every-day life. We didn't organize ahead of time when we saw redpill kids rising in numbers across online spaces and Donald Trump memes growing in popularity. We didn't push in a real-world way to mitigate the harm being done by outside influences, misinformation and online grifting of our feelings.

Imagine if more of us volunteered to serve on school boards and had a voice in those spaces and said "Hey, I'm seeing a LOT of young guys right now online saying they just hate women and dating and hate themselves, like, it's growing, we really need to get ahead of this and start talking to the students here, maybe some after-school reach out and structured life-coaching before these young guys start going to washed-out British kickboxers for help."

Would it have changed the world? Probably not, but it all adds up, every thing we can do helps towards making a better future, it doesn't have to be a singular action that shakes up the status-quo.

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[–] timsjel@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I truly do care and feel for all Americans right now. What any one individual can do IS limited and we need to acknowledge that. Of course, throughout the course of history there has been "heros" but most of us aren't and demanding that all Americans that does see the madness should "do something about it" is really not helping. I mean, i hope that some of you (us based people) will, but being in you position... I dont know, i hope I'd had the courage, but man... I dont know. Also, what tf do i do? My great "contribution" is trying to boycot American products... Bigwoop me.

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