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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 32 minutes ago

Eh, im not comfortable with the scouts being associated with such a sketchy organization anyway.

[–] Aonifall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military and they’re a private organization? I’m just wondering because he doesn’t know much, especially when it comes to the military.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Bitch, please. They weren't scared of the Mormons, and they took an even bigger financial hit for breaking up with them. You think they're gonna be scared of you? In this climate, the instant they announce cutting ties with you, fucking Taylor Swift or Mark Ruffalo will swoop in.

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

The Pentagon funds the scouts? FFS...

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine being so invested in the extracurriculars of other people's kids

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Hell, these are the same people that are obsessed with where other people poop.

Also, Hegseth concerns himself with facial hair, so...

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, return to the roots of boys will be boys

“For more than a decade now, Scouting America’s leadership has made decisions that run counter to the values of this administration and this department of war, including an embrace of DEl and other social justice, gender-fluid ideological stances. This is unacceptable,” Mr Parnell wrote on social media.

What were they up to before that decade?

Scout's Honor

In February 2020, the Boy Scouts of America filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. By the end of that year more than 82,000 former Scouts had come forward with claims of sexual abuse that took place during their time as members of the organization — meaning, of course, when they were minors. Their claims span across decades and generations, all over the United States.

I know not everything they do relates back to protecting the wealthy global pedophelia network, but honestly this probably does.

There were even troops where boys from unstable homes were targeted and recruited by "scout leaders" with the promise of offering them better lives.

New Orleans Boy Scout Troop 137

The scoutmasters preyed upon children from unstable backgrounds and used them for child pornography and their own sexual pleasure, as well as pimping them out to pederasts in and outside of Louisiana.

By May 1977, nineteen men were charged with abuse in relation to Troop 137. According to then-district attorney of Orleans Parish, Harry Connick, the clients had abused other children in thirty-four different U.S. states, as well as in England. Contacts of the troop to pederasts abroad, as far as Saudi Arabia, were discovered, as were filing cabinets full of letters dating back to 1956 of men requesting access to boys.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Gender fluid is what Hegseth guzzles at airport bathrooms.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When there is Jesus, little kids get fondled. Fucking disgusting.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think the scouts in the US started as religious (or at least not strongly religious), but there was plenty of molestation going on even back then. Or maybe I'm not remembering everything correctly--it's been awhile since I listened to the Behind the Bastards episodes on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2xoNCWd10

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 7 points 4 hours ago

It was started by Baden Powell in the UK. He wrote a book called "scouting for boys". A lot of scoutmasters took that literally.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The MAGA asswipes would like to transform the Boy Scouts into their version of the Hitler Youth, Young Pioneers and other fucked-up youth groups for brainwashing purposes.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The Mormons used it specifically for indoctrinating young men into their own cult for decades. They were BSA's biggest sponsor for fucking ever, since participating was mandatory for Mormon boys. Breaking ties with the Mormons over gay rights was a big fucking deal. It was a cultural nuke at the time when I was in Utah.

[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

Telegraph is an absolute shitrag

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 33 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I would like to point out that Kegsbreath was not a Scout.

Also, even if he was, how having girls in the Scouts affects him, personally, is a real mystery.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 4 hours ago

I was in scouts. People brought their sisters to meetings all the time. They joined in whatever we were doing and it was fine. I also went on a couple girl scout trips. I don't even remember how that happened but we had a fun time. Most of the girls I met as a kid and remained friends with through my teens I met through scouts. Good experiences all around.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 11 points 7 hours ago

He thinks boys should only meet girls in college by roofieing them.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Republicans will do literally anything to avoid actually governing.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

They are really afraid of girls who know how to castrate.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago

This is the truth. It's stupid culture war shit all the way down with these guys. Harmful stuff that will do nothing but help a few angry incels jerk off to "owning the libs", but providing nothing of value to anyone in the country except for billionaires.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 17 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Lol I know like a dozen eagle scouts and today 100% of them are gay or trans. Trying to keep the BSA conservative while every uncomfortable father is enrolling their pansy son is a game of entropy that the right cannot win.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yep lol, a decent chunk of the trans women I've slept with have been eagle scouts

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe they worry this is where the trans learn to shoot.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

At least Scouts teach firearm safety, which clearly ICE skipped in their rush to terrorize neighborhoods

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 143 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The relationship between Scouting and the Pentagon is also codified in law, which states that the Pentagon must seek a waiver from Congress if the military intends to cut its support, and explain why giving that assistance “would be detrimental to the national security of the United States”.

I love how they tag this minor detail onto the very end where they have to publicly justify it to congress rather than just doing whatever autocratic whim they feel like.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Why does the military have anything to do with scouts?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 6 points 4 hours ago

Scouts does do a really good job of preparing kids for the military if they so choose. Many of the hard and soft skills it teaches are very military-esque. Or put another way, I was chatting with another parent who's oldest just joined the military at 18 and they said the training is just like scouts and credited scouts with preparing them well for the military

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you get eagle scout you get a small raise when you join the military, same as if you had an associates degree.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

You recieve the same bonus for a few different things. I think the girl scouts gold award and sea scouts quartermaster award give the same enlistment rank bonus.

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 8 points 8 hours ago

It's not really teaching Boys to Scout, it's a program that is Scouting for Boys who are likely to do well in situations similar to the military, albeit a less modern one than exists today.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 49 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This kind of policymaking brought to you by Tough Secure Manly Men, we swear

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

So fucking weird that they care so much.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

I think anyone butthurt about having girls in Scouts has a very tiny penis. I don't have an explanation for the women obsessed with this kind of thing, though.

If you are not a kid in Scouts or you are not a parent involved in Scouts, this affects you how? The right is obsessed with all sorts of shit that does not affect them in the least. They'll take up this kind of cause, all while they cannot afford to get by in this economy. It's so fucking stupid.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 hours ago

Culture war BS to distract the MAGA base from the class war.

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[–] AccoSpoot@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 9 hours ago

Dumbest dystopia ever.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 64 points 13 hours ago (13 children)

The real enemy to America all along...Girl Scouts and their cookies. /s

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[–] MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works 39 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Just going to comment here to avoid some misconceptions. Apologies for the long comment. Tl;Dr, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are not part of the same parent organization.

Scouting America is basically a rebrand for Boy Scouts of America. The rebrand happened when they began to admit girls into the program, like 8 years ago or do. Many people get confused thinking that Boy Scouts of America and Girl Scouts USA are partner organizations when they are not. They are two independent programs with different missions and values. For example, Boy Scouts has maintained Declaration of Religious Principle which requires to members to sign an agreement that states that they believe in some sort of higher power. They also include a Duty to God in their Scout Oath. Girl Scouts on the other hand is a secular organization that does not require a belief in any higher power but does encourage members to explore their own faith if they have one.

The decision for BSA to admit girls was a controversial one even within the organization, but their numbers have been flagging for a while and they felt that allowing girls in would help. There was also a more progressive wing within the organization that recognized how discriminatory this was and wanted to reform the organization. Joining Boy Scouts, with an organizational emphasis on nature, citizenship, and skill mastery, would be a different experience for girls than Girl Scouts, which allows troops to pick for themselves what they want to focus on to develop leadership and confidence and often doesn't include camping at all. Many girls joined Girl Scouts expecting it to have the same focus as Boy Scouts, would be disappointed, and then drop out. This could give the Boy Scout experience to girls.

In order to make this happen, it was agreed that girls would have separate troops from boys. They could share resources but each troop would have their own youth and adult leaders and would need to camp in separate sites. It is not like they are sharing tents or anything like that.

So that's why it is obvious to me that the Pentagon taking this stance is clearly regressive and just trying to be anti-woke and going after an easy target. The military is already coed, so why not give girls the same support and experiences that boys can have in Scouting? Its just another red flag that they want to prevent women from advancing in the military. They know that Scouting America is in a tough spot and thinks they can either get them to regress and tacitly endorse anti-wokeness or be made an example of.

There's another recent change in Scouting America that was also controversial and seen as woke that the article doesn't address. Following the George Floyd protests Scouting America came up with a new merit badge that would be required for any scout that wanted to reach the rank of Eagle: Citizenship in Society. This badge explicitly discusses racial injustice and teaches Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion principles. As you can imagine, this did not sit well with conservative members and many left in protest (though many had already left when girls and gays were allowed). There have been a few different new organizations attempting to recapture the old school Boy Scout mentality with a doubled down emphasis on gender exclusivity, religion, and pure meritocracy without any regard to positions of privilege. They are growing and I suspect one will try to replace Scouting America as the youth organization of choice for the military.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 43 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I guess they are arguing the Scouts arent educational or work. As both work and education have laws banning discrimination based on sex if they receive federal funding.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 47 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Fascists don't make a case. They just use force. In their view, argument and reason are for the weak, and the weak should not live.

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