Scrodinger's immigrant.
Taking all the welfare but also taking all the jobs and houses
this post was submitted on 12 Feb 2026
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My dad spent his entire career knowingly hiring illegal immigrants who provided (supposed) falsified documentation proceeded to hate them all the while.
Apparently hating them while profiting off of their literal hard labor was morally acceptable to him.
Not the farmers who are watching their crops rot.
Why aren't those Real Americans^tm taking back their jerbs?
Oh that's right, just like the last time Republicans went full stupid with immigrants, we find out yet again they don't want those jobs because they're soft as hell.
Isn't this the guy who wrote a paper under a pseudonym so he could cite himself in defense of tariffs?
Yes, and in the laziest way you can imagine. Just made an anagram of his last name, Ron Vara.
Admittedly, my brain is a little scrambled at the moment, so hopefully someone here can help me follow along.
They've deported millions of workers out of the job market. Then why are so many places having massive layoffs, threats of layoffs, and hiring freezes? Should there be a massive abundance of job openings now?
Then again, if they're implying that most of those immigrants didn't work, then where did the whole immigrants took my job rhetoric go? And why would non-working immigrants require us to adjust our expectations down in the job market so much?
Are these double-reverse-plus-infinity immigrants, simultaneously not working and living off government benefits while also taking jobs from people, jobs which mysteriously vaporize the moment the immigrants are deported?
That aside: Less than 2 years ago, my small team at work was looking to hire more developers, a qa person, an assistant designer, and a project manager. Trump took office, and within months, the team I worked in was halved in size via layoffs, a hiring freeze was put in place, and several of the remaining folks were demoted (in exchange for otherwise staying employed). These days, nearly everybody I have talked to in various "office jobs" professional services fields mentioned that they are facing another round of layoffs and that there's a hiring freeze in place.
They didn't deport millions. They have brutalized people enough where seasonal workers don't come to the U.S. or the ones here don't show up to work
and all the goods and services those people would be consuming have disappeared in a puff of logic
No way their labor created more value than they extracted from the system. But that would be a like a free boost to GDP and prop up a larger job market benefiting citizens. No, the white man must be the victim here, i just need to figure out how...
There are a couple factors at play and ICE is actually a smaller one.
- Tarrifs - Trumps approach makes everything in US more expensive and also adds uncertainty (because he uses them at a whim)
- Policy Whiplash - Lots of tax/subsidy/regulation/grant changes disrupting business. This has disrupted existing projects and caused increase uncertainty in operating a business
- Dollar loosing value - Aggression against allies/tariffs/etc. has caused allies to dump US bonds increasing our borrowing rate and hurting the dollar. This can be good for industry long term, but means less purchasing power and less confidence in the economy.
Overall, Trump causes uncertainty in the world and economy. Uncertainty usually causes people to be more careful/conservative leading to economic slowdown.
The saddest part is ICE isn't even deporting that many more people than Biden or Obama (based on numbers). They're actually just detaining tons of people - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/aug/29/trump-immigration-ice-cbp-data
Yeah, TACO just did his deportations in the most obnoxious way possible.
I would call it cruel and illegal, but yeah there really isn't anything he's good at.
Oh I get it! I lost my job due to bullet item #2. I worked for a federal contractor. Had there been sufficient warning and a gradual shift in funding, I'm 99% confident that the company I worked for could have shifted gears and successfully pursued alternative funding, sparing thousands of good jobs. In fact, before Trump took office, we were already heading in that direction.
However, the Trump administration immediately and without precedent rescinded payments and cancelled signed contracts, which was disastrous and completely unrecoverable. Not only for my place of employment, but for thousands of others across the country.
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the monetary and policy changes, it's important that these changes take place at a cadence and with enough planning that allows business to adapt. That didn't happen. It's wrong and immoral how things went down. It's absolutely criminal that contracts are simply cancelled and payments pried back.
Yeah, anyone working in the government space has been screwed over big time by this admin - except for the people they're funneling money to.
So.... The millions of jobs these "illegals" are doing don't exist? If we're deporting "millions" of them (but only the worst of the worst, so couldn't be too many women and definitely not children) then that would be close to millions of jobs that now need to be replaced.
If we're supposed to revise our expectations downwards then their jobs aren't being staffed by "real" 'muricans after the "illegals" were kicked out... I guess the CEOs are putting their work gloves on and doing the work of millions? Makes sense, since they're sooooo valuable apparently.
That little experiment is being tried now. Seems it means if immigrants can't come to the companies, companies move their offices and factories to the (former) immigrants.
Yep the ceos are hard at work lol
There is a name for an ideology that requires an enemy who is perceived as both strong and weak
I mean, this is clearly the same kinds of magical immigrants who steal all our jobs while sitting around claiming welfare all day.
Somebody tell Bondi, maybe the paradox will make her head explode.
How DAAAARE you ask her a question! /s
And don’t you EVER expect her to answer the way YOU want. That’s just a disgusting notion . . . Proceeds to attempt/filibuster every time she speaks in order to ‘just get through it’
The goal of pain is pain. The goal of power is power.
Funny how Employment numbers haven't leapt with the hiring of citizens and legal residents now that the "worst of the worst" are no longer taking all the best jobs.... And neither have wages risen with the loss of "illegal aliens" willing to work for sub-legal wages. Of course the real victims are the owners who are losing profits every day! And yet aren't willing to pay a living wage, nor provide working conditions and benefits commensurate with the effort and hazards of the jobs.
Funny enough it's not just construction work etc. A LOT of immigrants were working in the health sector.
It's the immigrants fault the economy was destroyed when we deported them!
And it's the world's fault that we had to add import tax on everything!
It's COVID's essential workers all over again. Probably a high overlap, too.
New ~~day~~ story, same ~~shit~~ game.