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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
Who let Dennis Reynolds write a "PSA"?
Of course they conveniently place two blue-haired “liberal” women in the car with the auto start stop to “own the libs”
The whole thing is a lie. My conventionally attractive hetero wife wanted a hybrid Toyota minivan over a Tahoe. It hauls ass, AC traction motors provide instant torque from a stop and the engine fires up while spinning - zero lag. 100% smooth acceleration. Priuses surely work exactly the same way.
Conservatives need to be reminded that these are the kind of lies that manipulated them into giving total control of the US government to pedophile “elites”.
My brother is planning on a sienna as the ultimate camper van. Big enough to kit out as a camper, efficient enough to travel widely, tons of range to actually get there, drives like a car. Easily converted back to car when he wants to sell. Apparently it even has dog mode or camp mode or similar, so he can choose to use the hvac at a campground without a noisy generator
Get the 1500W AC inverter option!
What is the meaning of dog mode?
As far as I know, pioneered by Tesla, but also in at least the Sienna and Rivian …
A special mode to let you leave your dog in the car. Typically hvac on so the animal doesn’t freeze or overheat, possibly locked controls and internal alarm sensors so animal can’t get in trouble, soothing music if you want it, and a message lit up on the screen so any concerned citizens know the animal is ok. I believe the Tesla lets you use the internal camera on vehicles that have that, sto check on the animal
Camp mode is somewhat similar idea but humans don’t need the lit up screen. Usually turns off interior lights so someone can go out to the bathroom in the middle of the night without the lights coming on while everyone is sleeping
Meanwhile I've known enough rural queer women to know you may have to ride in the jankiest self upgraded pickup you ever saw in order to get laid as a lesbian in some parts of this country. And yes, they will mock short bed trucks
Lesbians drive Subaru Outbacks.
The AC system is electric in the Prius. It doesn't just kick-in when stopped. Its electric all the time. If the battery goes low, then the engine is turned on.
I'm not sure it's possible to hate this administration more than I already do. But everyday they're out here, making the absolute most dogshit choices available, trying to reach a new high score. I'm not speaking in hyperbole when I say that drumpf is literally the antichrist.
The regime is more than one man, most of them are in the Epstein files.
I agree with most you say, just two things: red car teleports from right to left of the prius, and auto startstop is a software feature and can literally be flashed to be off by default.
Some cars like mine have a physical button to disable it. But I didn't notice the teleportation.
Right, but if you turn off auto startstop then turn the ignition off and on again, auto startstop will be on again. You can (pay someone to) mod the ECU to have auto startstop off by default. It's not super common though.
I drive a newish Chinese car and it does not reset from factory. The button has a persistent state and I have to go through 3 menus on the touch screen to toogle it. Drives me mad as I want to disable the start-stop very rarely in humid conditions and remembering to turn it back on is a chore.
So many levels of wrong. That's a gen 2, maybe 3 Prius. Both of which have instant electric torque and scroll style AC compressors which run with the engine off. Excellent cars which are still good value today.
Can confirm. Drive a '14 Gen 3 and it's been pretty damn reliable in the ~10 years I've owned it. Looking at a midrange EV in the next year or two tho. Got the Prius cuz I was driving 90 miles a day. I drive maybe 15 now.
I once rented the cheapest three cylinder Renault to drive in the mountainous terrain in 40 degree heat. The car barely managed to go uphill but not once I had problems with the AC or the start stop system. In the heat the car would stop the engine and then turn it back on as soon as temperature deviated from the set target. This would repeat two to three times, then it would just preemptively show a message on the screen saying "prioritizing thermal comfort" when stopped. The start-stop would resume as usual when it got cooler, no input was required at all.
Never got the hate for the feature, you just have to remember to jerk the steering wheel a bit before the light change if starting 1.5 seconds earlier is critical.
I had two motor options when I test drove my vehicle. One had start/stop and the other didn’t. I drove both on the same route. There was a freeway exit that was one of those slightly irregular yield right handers. I had to stop for maybe a second for a car to clear. The engine shut off. I hit the gas since it was now clear for plenty of time till the next car. It didn’t move. I hit the gas harder. Nothing. Now it’s starting to get questionable with the approaching car. Hit the gas harder. Then the engine finally kicks on when I’m in the accelerator about 50-75%. The vehicle squeals its tires as it pulls away. The sales person doesn’t really say anything from the passenger seat. That was my first and last time dealing with start/stop. I bought the other motor option.
That feels more like shitty electronics rather than something inherent for start stop. Sometimes my car fails to figure out that it's time to engage the clutch and I'm sitting and revving like an idiot without moving. Modern cars are terrible, unfortunately, parts for older cars are terrible as well.
The car from that story is my only automatic and it was a brand new vehicle. Everything else I own is a manual. They work exactly how I want all the time. I’m sad they’re dying out or at the bear minimum moving to crazy expensive sport models.
My grandfather was an automotive engineer and when I was 12 or so and he taught me to drive, he said that he didn't spend 30 years designing automatic transmissions so that I had to learn to drive manual. So I never did. He taught me many things and I can probably still replace the clutch or broken synchromeshes in a manual, but driving one is something I never got to.
Sometimes I get a weird fixation with hatchbacks from the 80s and the manual transmission is the only thing that stops me from buying though.
At least some of the problems that are reported from auto start stop are because people don't understand that battery load can cause it to not operate at all (I. e. not stop the vehicle running) meaning they don't get the cost savings on gas. Or that eventually your battery will need to be changed and it needs to be an AGM battery.
Every other time I've seen there be a problem it was because something was badly manufactured and there was a subsequent recall.
It's amazing how soulless things are when you take humans out of the equation
Absolute shit tier, even down to the "ugly blue haired lesbian" stereotype.
Who also run marathons, according to the bumper sticker.
The bumper stickers that also disappear in the last scene.
I’m not a fan of auto start and stop but I think it’s because I am older. I never owned a reliable car before 2003 so it’s pretty ingrained in my head that when the engine unexpectedly shuts off, it may not start again. I think it’s a trauma response to owning pieces of shit for a decent chunk of my life.
My 100k+ mile can can attest that Auto stop has little to do with car lifespan. I've never even needed to replace the starter.
I drive a 2016 Audi A3 and the auto start stop feature was really janky. The engine always came back on but it was sluggish to do so and a bit jerky. I programmed the ECU to disable it and the car drives quite a bit better as a result. Not sure if it's just a clunky early implementation of the feature on my car or what
It sucks so much for ICE engines at stop signs in rural areas, when needing to turn left, or anything other than roads with lots of stoplights. It is frequently dangerous because it keeps the vehicle from moving, making driving unpredictable.
Disabling it increased my mileage slightly, because I am rarely ever stopped for the 10 seconds or so it takes to be worthwhile. I could see it being a benefit in a city, but would rather just have mass transportation instead.
I think like others have pointed out, it kinda needs to be paired with a hybrid electric motor so you get that instant start and just enough time for the gas engine to kick in. My next car will be electric but I only drive like 4k miles a year so it will be a good long time before I get anything new. My 2016 Jeep is still not at 40k miles. It will be interesting (and I look forward) to going from a six speed manual transmission to full electric.
No, a hybrid is not needed. It's in my car which is just a normal internal combustion engine and it works fine. Going over 100k miles.
Perhaps my Prius is different but the AC doesn't turn off when I stop. When the car is not demanding power it runs off the battery this includes the AC. The engine comes on when I sit for too long but I assume that would be the case with any start stop system. With the windows are down your not going to get much cooling anyway. The age of that Prius could also do with a refilling the AC coolers if they are not getting the temp down. This is such a weird point to run on and one that has been solved with newer cars.
No car does this, not even my purely internal combustion engine car that's 10+ years old. This is a generated video that is promoting a fake solution to a fake problem as a real distraction.
I hate auto stop. It always freaks me out and I dislike how the AC stops working when I stop at a light. So, I did something about it and got an EV. Bonus points, my EV does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds which is far faster than any sportscar I've ever been on, including Ferraris.
I did also the first time I used startstop, but that was more than a decade ago. Even back then it eventually came back on for the ac - just allowed a larger than normal temperature change. I’m sure they’ve gotten better but even back then you do more or less get used to it. Eventually. Combining that with series hybrid or plugin hybrid should make it really shine.
I was legitimately confused what they were even attacking since auto start/stop has been so inconsequential in my life that I didn't even notice they were randomly trying to attack something nobody has ever complained about. Thanks you clarifying, lol.
The ineffectiveness of the ad is probably the fault of AI, too, I suppose. It's a dogshit ad by any marketing standard, anyway, and I can't imagine the minds at the Whitehouse producing a non-AI ad of better quality, lol.
This is the epitome of focus group politics when the only people in the focus group are idiots.
There are preschoolers with fingerpaint and construction paper making better graphics than this and the current administration should not be allowed within 1000 yards of any of them.
... somehow the US government still manages to surprise me. It even has product placement worked into it?
Didn't the white House literally have a used Tesla dealership on the front lawn? I'm getting mixed messages.