I thought, giving a gun to everything that breaths was supposed to prevent this?
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It is hilarious to me and also annoying that they say there is no resistance. Millions are flooding the streets. Record protests. Hundreds of thousands have made networks of information systems. But yeah sure no resistance. A toy company took the administration to Supreme Court and won but okay yeah no resistance . Women gassed and burned ice warehouses but okkkkk no resistance. Kids punching nazis. No resistance. Ridiculous.
KEEP GOING EVERYONE!!!! Locally up to internationally we the people have the power to get things done together!! Get more people active from anybody that isn't yet!!
Also if you notice anybody going through tons of stress comfort them for a bit, laugh, have fun, and bring up their hope. Get them connected with others in person and online. All of us together are capable of anything
These countries a lot done from people working together: Syria, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Madagascar
Others that already were: Japan, South Korea, Norway, Denmark.
Currently all the People and especially people from these countries need all the assistance they can get: Ukraine, Myanmar, USA, Iran, Nigeria, India (Yes every country just these will have huge impact on everything else)
P.S. Networks of Information systems? I wanna help out for that what do you recommend I do? Been thinking setting up Matrix and Fluxer communities to help out with getting people mobilizing, collaborating, and doing in-person and online. Online communities focused on getting things done
they say there is no resistance
There's street resistance, but virtually no political opposition. At every level of government, Democrats are falling over to comply, even as their constituents scream in protest.
There's a somewhat valid excuse that the Dems are minority powers in house, Senate, and supreme court (which is now partisan) and the American system doesn't grant any political power at all to a minority party against a lock-step majority.
That said, remember during COVID peaks, when Trump had his BS press conference updates? Andrew Cuomo, himself no saint, also had daily (?) live streams to give important information and quarantine/medical advice. Dem politicians could absolutely be using their voices right now to make a lot of noise - even without mechanical political power.
Democrats are not the minority in California or Oregon or Minnesota or New York. Nevertheless, state and municipal leaders have rolled over to ICE, co-mingled local PD resources, and left grisley murders unprosecuted.
So what ?
Trump and his crew are still going on with their plan.
Your highest court rules that the taxes are illegal, and orange Don just creates new ones.
Some crowds walking on the streets and yelling is not any resistance, when the bad guys simply continue.
We need socialism, and fast.
Gotta get the corpo democrats out first then prosecute all fascists and fascist enablers.
It's relieving in a terrible way to see this acknowledged. I've heard far too many people over the last 15 months argue that this is just a roadbump, or talk about it like the typical Republican administration of economic strain and erosion of some civil rights. This is unprecedented in our country's history. This is not something to hunker down and wait out.
Even the idea that "fascism will inevitably collapse" is an oversimplification and wishful thinking. I understand that much of this inaction is trauma from the strain of us living in a post 9/11 America, which up until now has been a slow-burn erosion of rights and tightening of economic conditions. Trump's second term is in every way a different beast. It was well apparent that it would be since before the election even happened: Project 2025. The signs reading "MASS DEPORTATIONS". Hell; I thought the Alt-Right Insurrection on Jan 6th, 2021 was so blatantly anti-democratic that Trump would have no chance of winning in 2024. I was clearly wrong.
Look at China. Look at Russia. That's where the USA is heading. Those nations are fascist, too. That is the type of fascism I see this country falling into. It's not going to be loud, with massive parades and MAGA Youth programs—Not in a country with this many people, this large an area; and this many guns. The fascism of the USA will be like it has been for the last year: With citizens disappeared from our streets; Agents exploiting our already shredded rights; and surveillance networks tracking our every move. That is life in China and Russia; and those nations are well-settled in those systems.
The course of the USA is to fall into a fascism of the system. It will not be our military harming our citizens. The violence will be carried out in policies enacted by people with faces and roles; under the guise of "just doing a job" or "protecting their community". Hell, let's not pretend like that wasn't already the case. The War on Drugs, The Patriot Act, the regular abuses of police against protestors.... This nation has been one of systemic violence since well before Trump took the stage in 2015. Just look to the population held imprisoned without being found guilty in our prisons, hospitals, and CIA detention centers.
I applaud the resistance in Minneapolis and Saint Paul. What happened in the Twin Cities was the first bit of resistance we've seen in this entire administration (excluding one-day attacks—I am not downplaying their significance.) Regarding the rest of this nation: What happened throughout the last year (especially the atrocities of ICE) is well beyond what I inherently assumed would be the "snapping point". The fact that our economy and institutions are continuing in the midst of such blatant oppression and corruption, has me convinced there is no snapping point at all. En large, no draconian policy will trigger an out-roar, because the masses simply do not have it within them. We're too worn down, too distracted, too traumatized, and too used to it. What scares me most is how clear it is—by the public conduct of our corporations, our elected leaders, and our government accounts—that our rulers know this.
"Fascism will inevitably collapse" is the dumbest take.
Like, it took world mobilization and six years to snuff out last time, but this time it'll just eat itself? Sure
THANK YOU. Also the German Army was weak before Hitler's rise (hence the loss in WWI which the Nazi's attributed to the "Stab in the Back" theory). Germany also owed significant debt for reparations in the Treaty of Versailles. And the mobilization of Eurasia, the USA and Canada is no small feat.
None of this is true here. The USA has the strongest and most expensive army in the world. The USA largely was the army of the "Free World"—I say was because it's clear the USA is aligned closer to China and Russia. Sure, the USA is in debt; but it's all imaginary numbers because the USA also prints the world currency.
Also: nukes. We've got nukes. We've got TONS of nukes. In WWII, Germany did not have nukes. Japan did not have nukes. Now, nukes are not nation-enders; but they are fierce deterrents, especially against democracies where leaders have to answer questions like "Why did you provoke the USA into turning my family into shadows over foreign policy?".
[The world unifies to save the USAmericans] is a prediction so self-absorbed and far-fetched, you'd only hear it from a USAmerican. The UK, Canada, Germany; they've all got their own rising fascist movements to suppress—and Again, hurting your civilians over foreign politics is extremely unpopular.
The US hasnt had a meaningful election in a long time. We were basically already a dictatorship. Now at least we can stop pretending that voting harder will change anything.
We can thank the Electoral College for that. I explained it to a German acquaintance and he was flabbergasted.
The last decade has made it abundantly clear how weak America actually is.
Growing up I just assumed we would stomp this kind of shit out real fast. Instead we're bending over and letting an almost dead felon rapist pedophile fuck our country and our futures up. We're allowing a clearly treasonous party to abdicate all their responsibilities to a fat creep that falls asleep and shits his pants during official duties.
It's truly pathetic.
Don't think I'll be able to muster up much patriotism for this shithole for the remainder of my life.
We all think the system will save it from itself and also none of us want to die
Tyrants always have the advantage in a "civil society"...
(Almost) Everything he does is legal so people treat it as fair game even if we don't like it, and aside from ICE murdering people, there isn't any direct violence to fight against so the "civil society" has to wait until it's wayyyyyyyy too late, to the point that we're all being sent to the gas chambers, until it decides it's morally correct to use violence.
Until that point we're left hoping our "representatives" will "fight" for us (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... Ughh....)
:(
People forget that morality, legality, and constitutionality are all different. Andrew Jackson ignored court orders regarding treaties with the Cherokee, nothing bad happened, because the people supported him. Lincoln blockaded the South without congressional approval, that was a good thing, also unconstitutional. He suspended habeas corpus, which was also unconstitutional. ICE is likely not breaking the constitution in many instances. However, that doesn't make their actions the slightest bit less abjorrent and evil. The constitution is a centuries old piece of paper. If anything, the Bill of Rights and some ot the other amendments (namely the 14th) are significantly more valuable.
Ice is detaining people without cause or warrants, it’s most definitely breaking the constitution.
There is a brutal man with a gun, controlling and threatening a group of good citizens with consciences. He's going to do terrible things to them, and make them do terrible things themselves.
They have him outnumbered, but he has the gun. If they rush him, they can easily defeat him. But, the first one or two or three or four people to move forward will be shot and probably die painfully. Going first is going to cost a terrible price and you don't know for sure that anyone else will follow you, that your sacrifice will be for anything at all.
You feel a little paralyzed and at the same time ashamed you are just standing there.
What happens next?
I don't blame the Citizens. The Citizens are against a huge media blitz working against them: Online, social media, and traditional media. They've been systematically targets to oppose on another on multiple levels.
The Democrats and the Republicans both failed. This is Democratic Erosion over a long timeline. We're seeing the results of a failure of Democracy.
Democratic guardrails were removed over a long enough time and/or were not reinstated fast enough. The same people who thrive in high-level social circles tend to be sociopaths and psychopaths, both can be corrupt, this is humans nature. Technology moved faster than geriatric politicians could keep up with, and this was taken advantage of by both the psy/sociopaths and International Forces. We are living through the downfall of American Democracy driven by both Capitalism and International Forces doing what all Internationals Forces have done since Pangea split or whatever.
We don't live in a perfect world. Democracy will always be a tug of war between ideas of shared power and the want of absolute power; this is human nature.
The only forces that can hold a POTUS accountable, especially at this stage when there's so many stooges in place, is a literal mob or the Military Branch. If this administration doesn't want to give up power; I'm not sure there's anything to stop them.
This guy is a sack of shit as big as trump, why are you upvoting the thread?
"Almost"? What meager resistance are they referencing? Protests? Protests are not resistance, they are just saying "we don't like you and what youre doing". As we have so far seen that has had no effect other than get people outside and on the street when they otherwise wouldn't bother.
Those people on the street are building connections, coalitions, and community around resistance. If the protests didn't mean anything and weren't effective they wouldn't be getting met with such a violent reaction from the regime.
Stop with the doomerism, get off the keyboard, and get involved.
I've mentioned this before to others whenever this comes up. most or a great majority of people in the US have it "good enough" to not "risk it all".
Things over here "aren't bad enough" for people to full-on revolt. I'd say we're kinda close but modern, white, boring america just doesn't want to get caught in the shit storm. They understand it might come for them at some point but that time isn't now so why "stick their neck out"
most or a great majority of people in the US have it "good enough" to not "risk it all".
Most of the people I know are barely hanging on and desperate to keep the little they have. When you're barely getting by, like 60% of Americans currently living paycheck to paycheck, you can't afford to risk anything.
They're too busy making sure their kids don't starve, or making sure they can stretch the last bit of money until the next check. Doesn't help that all we do is exploit these people any chance we can.
And I'd bet a lot of people in that situation don't really care to help repair a system that never really worked for them in the first place.
It's not the right approach, you and I know that. But desperate people don't act rationally. They act emotionally. And our society has gotten really good at manipulating peoples emotions.
"We're too poor to afford to risk anything" is insulting to all the popular revolutions which happened because people were actually poor. Like, sorry not sorry, but the median American proletarian may live paycheck-to-paycheck but still lives in untold luxury compared to a 1917 Bolshevik who had to go to war sharing two boots and one rifle with multiple people, or the median revolutionary in Nepal last year (one of the poorest countries in the world).
Americans really have it too good to risk it all, that analysis is correct. They could have it a lot better, sure, but threat of not having it so good anymore is what keeps them complacent.

The people living paycheck to paycheck are ones who would make the most impact by striking, but are least able to as they will starve, be evicted, lose utilities/cell/internet if they do.
The people who are making enough money to be comfortable are afraid that if they upset the people above them, they will become the people living paycheck to paycheck.
The independently wealthy and top tier capitalists are the ones that have the most financial freedom to protest, but have the least reason to, are the smallest group, and are mostly fine with how things are (at best) or actively making things worse (most likely).
My friend Bob, who lives down the street, said the same thing (and he's no historian).
It is without resistance. The citizens offer protest while the Democratic Party looks out for their retirement checks. The protest has been ineffective other than getting press and bringing out trump’s goon squad.
The 2001 Patriot Act is the cornerstone and the MAGA fucknuts pushed ahead with their insane Project 2025 BS!
Did you know Hitler just took over the movement created by his mentor?
I didn't until recently

Down to the lil mustache and everything...
Putin won the Cold War. Things that are happening I would never though would happen and I really believed republicans would defend the constitution, they talked about it so much.
Now even talking against them is dangerous since they are tracking everyone. I really though people would protect more democracy