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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago (156 children)

The report: everything we were screaming into the void from 2023 till 2024.

The report is moot other than the fact they trying to bury it because anyone with two twigs to run together knows the answer, knew it before it happened, knew it while it was happening, and knows it now.

Trump was easily beatable in 2024 and Dems blew it at every turn.

You want to see the roadmap for beating Trump?

Sort c/politics by controversial and read the top five threads of comments.

It's all there in black and white, in no uncertain terms. And the shitlibs who insisted we take the worst strategy turns possible (and advocating for them in those threads)..they mostly jumped ship (santanko and squid being notable examples).

It's also worth nothing how many voices who go their analysis at the time basically correct at the time it would have mattered, how many of them are banned from politics as a whole. There was a clear moderation effort made to cultivate a specific type of conversation here.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Next up: Dems working on secret report found Epstein and Trump were friends!

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Not just friends! Best friends! Besties!

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The dissent was widely known and broadcast — they chose their line. And it will cost us decades if not generations.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (23 children)

yep, I think the centrists think of it as a single lost election that they can just have a do over on next cycle. Many of the dem base voters they imagine will come back are third party for life now. People take supporting genocide pretty personally. Many on here like finitebanjo and givesomefucks want to pretend the DNC dems never supported genocide. But they did, and still do. Theres no take backsies or do overs on that.

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[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow! You mean that thing that a shitload of people were screaming warnings about has finally been heard? And only 18 months too late to do anything about it! At this rate, they might figure out that trump is a pedophile before he dies. I sure do have a lot of hope that future elections are gonna go well and totally not be ratfucked out in the open with no pushback of any actual consequence. I'm glad that there will be a stern letter threatening to file a lawsuit (that will never happen) due to armed CBP and ICE at the polls terrorizing BIPOC. Inspiring stuff, papa Schumer!

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[–] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

Huh. Maybe next time we tell them "supporting mass murder is bad even if the other side does it too" they'll listen.

They won't. They would rather lose and be controlled opposition. But one can hope for change.

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who could have predicted supporting mass murder would look bad?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Funny enough. Last week they still are.

They're still openly defending Israel.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago

Scoop: no fucking shit.

So exhausting.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago (16 children)

All the crummy neo-lib takes makes me regret having voted for it to begin with. I compromised myself for the sake of damage control and I'm furious about it. I consider a neo-liberal as no better than MAGAt because when the mask comes off, they aren't.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

My surprised Pikachu meme died a while ago. Pretend I'm posting him here.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (51 children)

Yup, all those folks withheld their votes, and now Gaza is saved!

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Blaming the voters would've worked, if it weren't for those meddling kids, too!

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

What state was going to turn if all green party voters voted Harris?

Because you can't name one, I'll proceed to the next point: it's the job of the party to court votes. That's it. They don't have another job. And when they fail in doing that, they've failed in their job.

A party blaming voters is like a sailor blaming the sea. The sea just is what it is. There is nothing any sailor or captain, or person looking from land can do to change the manner of the sea.

The voters are the way they are. You can hate the way that they are, you can wish they were different than how they are, but that doesn't not change them. We told you this in 2023. You ignored us and told us that "the voters just needed to suck it up and vote this way". But the voters didn't, because that's not how voters work. And by resisting calls for the party to change, you are doing the work of setting us up for further failure.

If you are blaming voters, an amorphous blob over which neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has control of: you are a saboteur of the effort to stop fascism.

It is politically illiterate to blame voters. When the sailors in board tell the captain "don't go that way, there are rocks", and the captain says "well the rocks better move, whose fault is it that the rocks didn't move?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

Libs would rather try to get millions of ordinary people to give up their most fundamental moral principles than ask one powerful person to exhibit basic human decency. They essentially treat politicians like gods, to be followed unconditionally. No form of democracy could ever work with such a submissive populace.

That's if you take what they say at face value, anyway. The reality is a lot of them don't want to pressure politicians about things like the genocide of foreigners because they don't genuinely care. They just have to pretend to for rhetorical reasons to appease leftists. If a politician disagrees with them on something they actually care about, they may suddenly find their misplaced spines. Hard to say how many are like that, as opposed to the ones who are genuinely spineless.

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

no fucking shit. idiots.

[–] KiloGex@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Ya, no shit.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Wow, came up with that themselves did they?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] orclev@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Because it proves they're incompetent.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would anyone waste their time studying something that's blatantly obvious?

Can someone conduct a study to confirm that hot is hot and cold is cold?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cause they get to pay themselves millions of donated dollars to do this study and then get paid millions more to come up with an Ad campaign to "fix" it

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 15 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Wut? Duh. That's literally why she lost

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Uh duh? And also just one of many, many things that her campaign screwed up.

Like backing away from going after price gouging corporation and ignoring the economic reality of the Average American and speaking of the recovery and inflation reduction in the academic abstract instead of to the average sixth grade reading level American.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (14 children)

But the Democrats said they had to support genocide for the voters.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

"Secret report" We have known this....

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could you guys fucking work on something useful instead of secret reports?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

They could work on non-secret reports that would actually result in better strategy, but that would not only be embarrassing but also disrupt the corporate donation gravy train.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Theuniparty requires unconditional support for Israel

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

C'mon, surely someone with access wants to leak that shit.

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