I think my plan B if I get laid off is to cash out everything and flee. Not too sure where, but I don't have a lot of hope with the current administration or job market.
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Americans are immigrating to other countries, they just like to call themselves X-Pats® because they think immigrant is a dirty word
My husband and I are moving to Mérida, Yucatán, México in April. We don't feel safe in Los Angeles anymore. And despite all the stuff going on in Mexico, Mérida is one of the safest cities in all the Americas.
They're fleeing
Wish I could leave. This is going to get bad ...
You got to have a way to do it though. You either have to have a job already lined up or you have to be under 30 so you could work some crappy job for 2 years or you have to be independently wealthy. The average Joe working at the Ford factory isn't going to be going anywhere anytime soon.
I mean I would if my support system didn’t have serious roots here.
If I was single you bet I would.
But being married with children it’s a lot harder to do that.
I agree. I'm in the same boat. I would make the point though that if you emigrate somewhere else, you're going to have to leave behind a lot of comfort. That includes your support systems. Without wads of cash you will have to endure living in conditions you don't want to. You will have to struggle more than you think is reasonable.
We are just not uncomfortable enough yet to take that leap.
Personne peut me messager avec un boulot français au sud de la France (ou Paris). Je voudrais y évader toute suite. Chuis biologiste, et chevalier professionnellement.
US citizen who just finished immigrating to Japan 2 days ago. It took 8 months of planning and prep work, at least $50,000, and brought my wife and I to the edges of our sanity for the vast majority of those 8 months.
But we are finally free. Fuck ICE, fuck MAGA, and fuck Trump.
Congrats. Was reading about the apartment application process for foreigners (giving them gift money for considering your application is a thing?) - that's daunting. Did you go for a large city or somewhere a bit off the main track?
Thank you. We’re on the outer edges of a major city, close to my wife’s family. Yeah, unfortunately this country has never been terribly welcoming to foreigners. I certainly wouldn’t want to live here long term if I wasn’t married to a citizen. I did it for 5 years in my 20s and got burned out.
Now you've moved to Japan, with its rising far right politics
This is a fair point, and one that I’m concerned about. But our only 2 choices were America and Japan, so we’re taking our chances with Japan for now.
At least you can be certain the Americans who are disgusted enough with their country to make the non-trivial effort of uprooting themselves are good folks, and they'll be a net positive for whichever new society they choose to become part of.
True. Side effect is probably that the usa sinks faster with each good person leaving. Still it's hard to blame them for leaving.
I wonder if just like Brits and French, Unitedstaters emigrating elsewhere will call themselves "expats" instead of immigrants.
We, white people of the west, can go anywhere in the world for work, affordability and/or safety without considering ourselves immigrants.
Many years ago I was chatting with someone from Malmö. He was complaining how immigrants were "taking over his city". But when I mentioned that I, a Canadian, would also like to move to Sweden, he told me it would be fine, that he would not consider me "an immigrant" because I'm from the west.
Anyway, I understand why anyone would want to leave. It's just that it seems the vocabulary used is different for different people.
Expat means that your intention isn't to settle down and stay.
Personally I'm not thrilled with how many immigrants to Sweden are raving religious lunatics. We spent 1000 years under the oppression of one of these insane sects (Christianity) and have enjoyed our freedom immensely.
Colonial legacy. One has to remember Europeans spent the 1800s and much of the early 1900s dabbling in "were civilized, they're not" brainrot ie. phrenology, race "science", eugenics, forced sterilization and most Western education essentially ignores the cultural legacy of white supremacy. Some Western countries (including the US) continued race based apartheid into the mid to late 1900s. It's why Western countries can never seem to completely shake Nazism. To a degree it's imbued into their very foundations.