There are a ton of angles and takes on this. I'm not here to proclaim that any of them are particularly wrong or right -- I'm not a fortune teller and I don't see the future. Having said that, this headline sort of feeds into my personal take on this. This was performed by an incompetent administration. It's easy to tear shit down. It's much harder to build good, strong things. The ramifications of these, and other recent actions, are basically a giant FUCK YOU to the next administration. And I'm sure they're at least half expecting the next administration to be Democrats. That's part of why they're doing this. Create an insurmountable problem, that no matter how well it's handled by the next leaders, is sure to be a political bombshell. And obviously, the fact that it's a news cycle distraction from the Trump-Epstein files and the shitty economy pretty much meant this was bound to happen at some point. Not to mention the fact that if this becomes a bit of a slow boil, then it also becomes a convenient excuse to cancel elections. Hope I'm wrong, of course, especially on that last point, but it's all too predictable.
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If you are in the US or Israeli military, you are a baby killing piece of shit, and you should be shunned by your neighbors. Fuck veterans. Take their rights.
On the contrary, the plan is to distract us from the Epstein files.
If this is a plan to distract from the Epstein files I would consider that a successful plan because what is happening is fucking insane. This distraction would literally be hiding child rapists by killing children.
this needs to be how this is communicated: "Trump starts war to hide child rape"
I challenge Lemmy users and everyone else, everywhere else I post, to please, please open up conversation with your maga uncle or neo-liberal parents.
Do not be dumb and try to start an argument, don't accuse, don't talk about identity or race or gender or any other issue they're already distracted with. Just ask if they think this is going to lower their groceries costs, their medical care, ask if they wanted a war with a country they can't point to on a map (don't say that) when they supported this administration, and if that's going to guarantee their social security and investments. Ask if it's "great again" yet.
Just ask. Just make them work the question and answer out in their head, that's your ONLY job, just plant the seed of asking how to connect these ideas, it doesn't even matter if they get mad at you for asking, your job is to make them figure out ways to make this work in their head.
Individually, you can't usually reach these people, but if enough of us do this all at once, we can start looking at it sociologically, like fluids, like percentages. We can still turn this around broadly, and Trump starting a war his own political-capital base doesn't want is how we get there so we can actually use this.
Yep, and wars ain't free.
Take a quick look through these reports from this month alone and then add sooner-than-expected loss of Medicare and Social Security to your arguments.
"Well, Granddad, did you know that the money for all these military actions at home and abroad are depleting your Social Security and Medicare funds far more rapidly than ever before, and that one of the major trusts funding your Social Security is expected to dry up entirely in 2032, only six years from now, because of the way Trump and his Congress is spending your cash?"
I mean, use your own wording, and your strategy of just asking the question is a great, non-threatening way to approach it. But add the detail about how soon the losses are coming now if you can, because this alone might rouse them from their stupor: NOTHING gets the Silent Generation and older Boomers up and onto their walkers faster than threats to SS and Medicare.
Direct link to CBO report on the HI trust fund that backs Medicare:
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/62165
Social Security
February 27, 2026: Social Security faces earlier depletion date, report finds -- USA Today
Direct link to the CBO report on the SS trust funds:
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2026-02/51309-2026-02-trustfund.pdf
I definitely agree with asking questions first. I've tried to open by explaining how I see things in an effort to get folks to open up and share how they see them, and people are so used to that being an attempt to tell them to think something different they can kinda shut down and get defensive even just from that
Try to get them talking and engage with them sincerely. If we want to fix the problems we have to do the work to build a bigger coalition
Yo! Isn't he the peace president?
FIFA peace committee in shambles. Crying into wads of money.
He's so peaceful, he's definitely getting the Nobel AND getting into heaven now guys
Yeah, people in pieces
Only when he's wearing the FIFA Peace medal
That thing doesn’t mean what it used to.
It's the first ever IIRC.
Isn't that the joke?
Certainly
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It always meant manchild.
Like the holy, esteemed FIFA Peace Price means nothing!!
I just can't even
This is going to spiral out of control. The whole Middle East is going to suffer from this. How is Russia going to react? What are the domestic repercussions going to be during an election year?
No love for the Ayatollah's regime but this is a disaster. This admin has such limited forethought they will make the Bush admin look like geniuses in retrospect
Definitely. From what I've read, the CIA and military brass advised against this move because someone more aligned with the IRGC could be installed. Who knows what that will look like, but the Khamenei government was offering to honor the 2015 nuclear agreement. Next regime probably won't be so cooperative.
Also wondering how this will change the plans and behavior of other big global players like China and India in the longer term. Preamble to WW3 or just a new era of heightened millitarism worldwide?
How is Russia going to react?
Long term, no idea. But Putin thrives on creating chaos, and much of his international strategy involves taking stable democracies and doing everything in his power to destabilize them. Just today a report came out in regard to likely Russian interference in Denmark's upcoming elections, but check out the sub-header:
US threats to seize Greenland have created ‘new international fault lines’ that can be used to spread disinformation, Danish intelligence agencies say
Putin did it in the UK with Brexit, he's done it (and is still doing it) here in the US, and now he's taking it further. Don't think for two seconds that Putin is threatened by this at all.
I guess Ukraine won't have to worry about as many Shaheds going their way?
🎶 I've been through the desert
with a man with no plan
La, la, la, la, la, la 🎶
As a pukestain he'll never make it to be a shitstain. Repulsive is his middle name.