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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

No country of pot heads ever thrived

Uh... Dude doesn't even know US history. Our biggest cultivated product pre-revolution was hemp. Several founding fathers, including Washington, cultivated and consumed cannabis. We are a country of pot heads. While the driving forces to ban it here were entirely because of racism and greed.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I guess they might also want to revert back to the glory days when the nation was so consistently and pervasively drunk off its ass that prohibition actually passed.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So Hamilton was probably a stoner? Cool!

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"Give me the chronic, or give me death!"

  • Patrick Henry probably.
[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamilton was a huge piece of shit.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean all the founders were.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thomas Paine was pretty cool

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not throwin' away my pot! 🎵

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[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump has never once in his life made an effort to know a single thing, and if there's one thing he knows the least about, it's the history of the country he leads.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, it wasn't that hard to get illegal marijuana. All this will do is cut tax revenue and increase crime.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans don’t actually want to stop crime. They want to act like tough guys, punish those they don’t like and make sure their “team” can get away with crimes.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

If anything, they REALLY want an "easy" crime to crack down on, so this is why they are making literally everything illegal, like porn and weed and having a penis in the wrong room or glancing at a cop without a smile on your face.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Awesome. That's right, MAGA Morons, go after reefer, and wake up the sleeping giant of young people.

We should make this a major deal, and have Dem candidates declare that they will support full legalization. It will attract FAR more votes than it loses, and MANY of this votes will be first timers.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should have supported full legalization from the very start. Almost everyone supports it yet no politician ever really cared. It never made sense.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes sense when you can easily put someone into forced labor for years for having a normal amount of it on them.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always thought the idea that we could stop wasting money on interdiction, and start making money on taxing it, and creating a new multi-billion dollar industry to help drive the economy. What more could they want?

But it turns out that there is actually something politicians like more than money - Control. Keeping weed illegal, and part of the War On Drugs, and making it as dangerous as Heroin, allows them to go after lots of young people, especially minorities.

Lock them up, put a felony on their record, and they can no longer vote against you, and their employment options are limited, so you always have low-wage slaves to hire or fire at will. Do that day in, day out, across the country for decades, and you have successfully restricted the ability of a demographic group to get results at the ballot box.

The ability to restrict minority votes takes precedence over creating a new economic powerhouse.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah the "war on drugs" is just a way to keep having legal slaves. Which still blows my mind it was written into the thirteenth amendment, that amendment should be amended.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Like it should just say no slavery, not slavery with extra steps.

Shits fucked up.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 30 points 1 year ago

No country of potheads has ever thrived, or ever achieved anything at all.

Dude's obviously never been to Silicon Valley, lol.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can’t have people getting high and start being introspective and caring about others

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Can't have people get high and start thinking

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

“Our society thrived when everyone was smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey,” wrote Daily Wire commentator Matt Walsh, completely ignoring the countless, well-documented, negative impacts (violence and death) of those two American vices. “We became the most powerful nation in the world with liquor and nicotine. No country of potheads has ever thrived, or ever achieved anything at all. Every city that legalized it became an even bigger shithole basically overnight. The entire history of western civilization tells us that marijuana is far, far worse for society.”

Dumbest fucking take I've read regarding weed in the U.S. in probably the past two decades. This is another one of those things that's like so low on the list of outrageous things that require attention right now, but it's just so fucking unbelievably dumb that it somehow becomes salient enough to be noticable above the chaos that is the normal background.

The way he is so confidently trying to gaslight society like an overbearing parent, as if we have no frame of reference regarding marijuana policy other than what we learned in D.A.R.E.

Those shithole cities with their absurd abundance of tax revenue from marijuana sales.

Opioid sparing effects in Medicare enrollees with access to medical marijuana.

Fewer lives ruined due to a reduction of nonviolent incarceration rates.

I'm not sure what kind of utopia Matt Walsh believes he is advocating for by rolling back even more evidence based progress, but it sounds like a shithole.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He wants to go back to a "utopia" where it's ok to beat your wife

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire. A dumb shit take is an achievement for that crowd.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

I'd rather my kid smell marijuana than smell cigarettes.

I'd rather my kid grow up and smoke weed, then get blacked out on Whiskey. And I like whiskey.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A guy at my work place swore that Trump was about to legalize pot

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which does have backing. This is coming out because Trump said he wanted to reschedule THC. Not all of MAGA is behind this.

Anyway, release the Epstein files.

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No shit, it's a fantastic excuse to arrest and detain/deport people for holding plants while you're out there obliterating 4th amendment rights.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well, now I'm gonna have some weed tonight just to spite them. I'm in Canada so they aren't coming for mine...........yet

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

It's just a matter of time. Fascists are not kind to their neighbours.

Elbows up.

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[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

I’m so sick of these fucking dweebs and I don’t want to share oxygen with them anymore.

[–] froggycar360@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like that people don’t get arrested for weed anymore, but I also don’t like the gentrification of it. I don’t want to buy weed from a VC funded apple store.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Buy seeds and all the stuff to grow tomatoes

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The 5 conservatives that actually give a shit about state's rights are gonna be so pissed.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“Our society thrived when everyone was smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey,” wrote Daily Wire commentator Matt Walsh, completely ignoring the countless, well-documented, negative impacts (violence and death) of those two American vices. “We became the most powerful nation in the world with liquor and nicotine. No country of potheads has ever thrived, or ever achieved anything at all. Every city that legalized it became an even bigger shithole basically overnight. The entire history of western civilization tells us that marijuana is far, far worse for society.”

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

“Our society thrived when everyone was smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey,”

Correlation vs causation.

You could say "we became the most powerful nation in the world with leaded gasoline and asbestos". They were around at the same time too.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Combine it with this quote:

Far-right conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec called people smoking weed outside a “huge factor” in violent crime in Washington, D.C. “States with legal weed you can just smell it all over in public,” he continued. “Can’t take kids anywhere.”

Because everything was so great when there was a nicotine haze in every restaurant. I don't even like the smell of burning a joint, but I'll take it over shitty cigarettes.

I do admit that a good cigar can smell really nice. But I have a family history of asthma as it is, and there's no way I'm touching one.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

Matt Walsh is one of the most smarmy fucks around. I swear, some people listen to him because he has a nice haircut and smile.

I only wish he was older, like Trump, so we wouldn't expect to have him on the earth for another two decades.

Trying to rewind the USA back to when we were all smoking cigarettes and drinking whisky is insane.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Someone must have found out it contains benefits and brings good to the world. Better kill it!

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a fantastic way to get non violent citizens locked up in for profit prisons for years on the taxpayers dime where shareholders profit.

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