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Years? Try months. Second year of his first term was when the economy first stumbled.
It's weird that Republicans aren't more fearful given that farmers got crushed last year, and fertilizer prices are skyrocketing this year. Both due to the pedophile.
As a farmer who warned my friends and neighbors about this fact during and after the election, the déjà vu of all of this is absolutely not worth the wait. We've literally been here before. And it was bad bad.
I've never wanted to say "I fucking told you so"
I still don't.
But here we are. And they still somehow have no idea. Its fucking wild.
The worst part is knowing and being powerless despite it all. The most frustrating ones are the people that see the signs and are preparing. Hell they will probably survive it too. Lick their wounds and trudge on again. But they never once hit the point where they realize their actions are the reason this is happening.
I'm hitting the point where I don't dread the collapse anymore. In the most nhiallistic of senses, Im starting welcome it. And I'm so damn disappointed that it's gotten to this point.
people be like "we don't hate republicans; we just hate their policies" and i'm like nah fuck that if every elected republican politician died i'd be celebrating.
I mean that still kinda counts, like i haye amazon and its leadership but i dont hate amazon employees/labor
Every day I wake up hoping it's the day that Donald Trump is no longer politically active. That's a real earned hate that I actually wish I didn't have.
Republicans have no idea how the system works (worked). Of course they don't realize what we're doing will cause collapse.
Fear is a strong word for it though. I feared it for the last 6 or 7 years. Now I know it's the only way. The only way out is through it. If any amount of suffering enables us to quit bombing small children, then bring it.
Am I worried about me and my children surviving? Yes, but I'm worried the rich will eat us either way. I hope we do it smart, and organize, and move en masse while the oligarchs are weakened.
Well, it is a faith based financial system. Those ignorant Republicans are full of faith. It makes the system strong. Their ignorance might be the cornerstone, holding it all together at this point.
MIT stats says it’s less than 10 years. Expects world wide full breakdowns by 2030 due to climate change. You thought the holocaust was bad.
I dont fear. I welcome. And really its my main financial benefit.
As do many who come from nothing or have nothing.
I'm thankful as a Canadian I came from meagre beginnings and my dad was a post-war baby in bombed our London. I have first hand experience in knowing what nothing is.
Let it burn.
Don't we always fear this and rightfully so because every 10 years we have an economic meltdown now?
That is way too optimistic
My 401k has lost 7% since the war. Trump has ruined all of our savings and investments. I also have to cancel all my trips cause gas is too expensive.
Have the day 70million wankees voted for.
Yea my retirement account has lost however much. And every single morning I still wake up and will the market to drop like lead.
Unfortunately, it's being manipulated from the top at this point, and it won't drop until they've all safeguarded their money.
I mean, it keeps happening.
And we have to keep watching Boomers live their best lives while knowing we won't have what they have.
So yeah, the pessimism is warranted.
Is that how Weeks is spelled now?
Most likely outcome of Iran war, whether or not victory declared, is that GCC will move towards Iran/China orbit and oil trade in BRICS currencies, with defense from Israel as common defensive alliance. https://lemmy.ca/post/62097698
Either the $200B giveaway to military and "allies" bankrupts the US, or losing middle east hegemony does, along with the massive GCC financialization support of US economy. All US allies except Canada rely on gulf more than the US, and US's Israel only protection focus, means "US friendship" is a liability if not worthless.
Like b43's GFC, Trump's covid response disaster (including intentional policy to make covid worse in blue cities), Republicans destroy economy every time. There is a limited capacity, or number of times, to bail out the system and maintain credibility.
I would pick under 10 years, even though the US is very good at extending collapse. The end will be visible soon, even though the GFC created a "premature batch" of doomers. There's simply no more budget capacity, or pretense of empire strength, that can be credible. Thank Epstein.
$200B is nothing, because with the petrodollar they can just print more. But losing the petrodollar would collapse the US so fucking fast. Petrodollar means sustainable trade deficit, it means they can export all of their crises and let the manufacturer countries (Europe, Japan, China) eat the inflation as they print money. No petrodollar means rapid collapse.
There are already talks about moving away from the Petrodollar. It's only a matter of time. The world is tired to getting taxed by the US though money printing.
Ten years? Lol
Edit: My cake day? Lol
Lol maybe theyre not caught up on current events? Like, at all?
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Many respondents believe the US economy is already in dire straits, the poll found
and here was me briefly thinking they were reforming :)
an old Kenny Evertt joke, when he introduced them on his show, "many people say the country is in Dire Straits but today, Dire Straits are in the country". The first time I heard Roller Girl.
and a "Lemmy" side note, first time I saw/heard Motherhead was when they did Ace of Spades on his show
10 years? I'm pretty sure 10 months is 50/50 odds at this point...
I have insight to a company that does automotive loans, and the number of people getting offers for 30% APR 84 month 0-down loans (and accepting them) is way too fucking high.
People can't really afford cars. The US government considers domestic car production so important, that we are practically banned from buying "better" cheaper cars made in China. The auto manufacturers know this and are absolutely chowing down in the captive market. The working class is going to lose reliable transportation, at the same time companies (and the government) are pushing to end Work-from-home options, and there is basically 0 public transportation in the US.
So a lot of people aren't going to be able to afford the systemically artificially inflated cars to get to their arbitrarily in-office jobs and they can't reasonably take the systemically hobbled/non-existent bus or train.
Oh, did I mention that we've pissed off and mistreated and deported all of the migrant labor that made fresh food widely available and cheap in the US? Oh, and we also emptied critical agricultural water reserves in a smooth-brain attempt to fight a fire 200 miles away. Don't forget, global shipping and fuel prices are fucked because of a war we decided to start to distract from the fact that the president is practically in the Epstein files more than Epstein himself? So come summer, we're going to have no food because we have no water and no labor, and importing food is going to be even more expensive? And that's before the capricious 100%+ tarrifs the president is slapping on everything via a fucking tweet.
Come on... I don't think I could fuck up running a county this bad if I was actively trying.
they really should be called the trump files....
10 years lol?? 10 more WEEKS of 'iran war' and we are all fucked!!!
Still votes for trump…
I’m still 90% sure the fucker cheated - hell he even admitted as much right after he ran
Of course he did.
The evidence of Musk knowing the results way before the actual people in charge did clearly is foul play. They even found Musk manipulating votes and the South African immigrant is STILL not behind bars.
They're dismantling voting systems. Not just the machines, but the actual "systems". The people counting, how its counted, what's valid or not, where you can vote, when you can vote, who can vote.
They're sowing doubt at a rapid pace. Every election that they lose is fraud. Every election that they win is not.
They threatened everybody who was honest. They threatened the counters. They threatened judges. They did Jan 6 and killed two cops and harmed many others.
Let's not beat around the bush. Trump cheated. Period.
The entire Republican Party cheated with gerrymandered districts, suppressing voter turnout, voting barriers, etc.
Hopefully sooner.
I don't think you know what you're hoping for.
Does the prospect of societal breakdown, warlordism, loose nukes, and mass starvation really sound nice to you?
Well, if it's inevitable then yeah probably better to get it over with asap, like yeah ideally trump gets a heart attack and we prosecute all the child rapists in Washington and restore the global order and resume the march of progress in solidarity. But idk i think trump dies and they just keep going with this reactionary bs until we get WW3 and US has to surrender to the allies.
Better for that to happen via economic crisis now than full blown military ww3 crisis in a couple years.
Don’t care as long as the US falls apart like the USSR did in 1991. It doesn’t deserve to exist in its present form.
Who gets the nukes?
Same as what happened when the USSR collapsed. The nukes ended up in what is now Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine gave theirs up, they regret that now.
Those fucking Magas can have their very own landlocked country. And do whatever TF they want in it. They can have their white straight Christian nationalist gilead. They just won’t be able to be the world police, kidnap heads of state, constantly punch down by embargoing struggling Latin American countries, start world wars or tank the world economy on the whims of an 80 year old demented reality show host anymore. The US needs to break apart and the sooner that happens - the better.
I think the concept is that nothing is a strong enough catalyst for change. The overton window is slid so far right now, you either support all the billionaires or most of the billionaires. If it all implodes, the idea is that people will mobilize and we'll be executing them in the streets.
I don't know that it will be enough even at that, but we're ceraintly not going anywhere sane as it sits now.
But most of American billionaires wealth is in stock evaluations. If the economy collapses billionaire will have nothing of value to extract from.
You place way too much faith in the assholes at the top being the ones holding everything together.
10 years is optimistic
Next 10 years?
Motherfucker, it is currently ongoing.
Fucking goddamn, Americans are propogandized as fuck.