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The poll indicates support for the more aggressive position Newsom has taken in standing up to Donald Trump, particularly over a plan by Republicans in Texas to redraw their state's congressional seat map in the hopes of winning more seats in midterm elections next year.

The battle to become the 2028 presidential election candidate will likely set the new direction for the Democratic Party as it struggles with net favorability at what one recent poll showed to be a three-year low. Newsom has not formally announced his candidacy.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But why?? Because he's acting like trump??

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

No, because he's mocking Trump. And because he's fighting back in the dirt with redistricting.

[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If this is the basket the Democrats put their eggs into I sense 8 years of the couch fucker in our futures. Newsome fucking sucks. At best he panders to progressives with one hand while he signs yet another shady bullshit deal behind closed doors like every single other politician alive with his other.

You think it's just a coincidence that all the money they raised with that benefit concert happened to go into non-profits that his wife runs? You think its been an accident that those effected by the fires haven't seen a penny from that concert?

California has some of the most corrupt and inept leadership it has ever had. More money than ever is being spent on things like homelessness and public transit projects, but strangely both the public transit and homeless problem have only been getting worse.

Fuck Gavin Newsome.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Idk how he would pander to progressives after mostly vetoing progressive laws in California then going on an anti trans kick once Trump won

[–] IdontplaytheTrombone@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's no way he would win an election.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Why not? He has a key advantage over Hillary and Kamala: he has a penis.

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

He's also a multimillionaire married to a billionaire, which helps. Him, not the voters, but it helps.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Great. He's gonna Hilary-up the election again.

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Don't forget to pokey-mon-go to the polls.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The DNC will die before it learns a lesson.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, let's put up another California democrat that's too centrist to attract progressives and too California to attract middle America, it worked so well last time...

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

It only makes sense to those who only think hilldog and Harris lost because they were women not because they ran God awful campaigns

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

A month ago, I would have said the same thing. Right now though, he's the only candidate I see standing up to Trump

I don't particularly like his policies, but I want someone either very progressive, or willing to get dirty

The current regime is far too fascist for me to worry about whether someone is progressive enough

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 8 points 9 hours ago

It's almost as if the people who find Republican issues compelling would rather vote for a full Republican than a Republican-lite. Maybe if he curses while doubling down on Zionism he will somehow reach the 3rd rail 🙄

[–] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 38 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They're going to do Hillary 3.0 in 2028 aren't they.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 8 points 8 hours ago

It's his turn

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

You better believe it!

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 46 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, let's elect a Reagan republican dressed up as a democrat who will spend his whole term trying to reach across the aisle.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom torched his own political party and said Democrats have to speak to Republicans — and reject cancel culture — if they want to win.

Screw that. I enjoy watching Newsom bicker with Trump just like I enjoy when the Lincoln Project mocks Trump. But the next democratic candidate needs to be an actual progressive that supports workers and the disadvantaged in our nation.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

I am very willing to debate this leading up to and during the primaries, but once those are done I am going to vote against the GOP no matter who is on the ballot.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

I'm with you 100% on that. If Newsom is on the ballot, he'll get my vote.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I am not American, but I would begrudgingly vote for him if I could. That is, unless, if the US progressives have gained momentum and takes over the party and

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 51 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

My fear is that the politics-as-sport metaphor has become too literal. He's getting attention by hitting at Trump and more Democrats should be doing that, but his actual policies and stances are uninspiring and offensive. He's another pro-corporate, pro-wealth, pro-status-quo white guy whose best quality is he isn't Trump.

[–] Atropos@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Completely agree. I long for the day I can finally for FOR something rather than AGAINST something.

On the other hand, not-trump is a pretty damn good quality.

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 4 points 9 hours ago

On the other hand, not-trump is a pretty damn good quality.

Sad but true. I fucking hate that we are talking about this fucking asshole, but like that bullshit recall election in '21, I will hold my nose and vote for harm reduction. So fucking depressing. You think its gonna be Trump again? If he wants to stay in power, breaking the 22nd amendment, why have elections at all?

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Newsom is a corpo's idea of a progressive candidate. That is, he's not a progressive candidate.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Pretty sad to see all these bluemagas already prepared to lose and suck it up and vote for gruesome newsom. Why would the dems give you anything if you're prepared to do whatever they ask of you anyway??? Hey boss I would like a salary increase but dont worry if you cant I'm gonna work here forever no matter what...

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Let's see if we get a competitive primary. We really haven't had one of those since 2008. If Newsom can win over genuine challengers in a primary, then maybe he can pull off a win in the general.

Who gives a shit if he can win? Arguably its even worse if the dems get to run a candidate like that and still get votes.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 90 points 15 hours ago (14 children)

He's not actually doing anything, and less than six months ago he was sucking up to Alex Jones and Charlie Kirk and telling them he agrees with them and the Dems need to move to the right on "social issues" like the existence of LGBT and racism.

Newsom is who the billionaires want, he'd be the worst possible pick for anyone else.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Thank God this is the top comment here. I keep seeing these posts about him and I'm just worried all the liberals are falling for his bullshit pandering.

[–] Impound4017@sh.itjust.works 42 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

God I’ve hated watching the way that this shitshow has turned Newsom into the Dem’s new darling rising star. He’s just more of the same neoliberal shit that got us here in the first place.

Still, though, I’ll acknowledge that he’s at least publicly fighting back, and the more voices that we have screaming “this isn’t normal, this isn’t okay,” the better imo. I think he’d be a shit president, but in comparison to the situation we have going on now? He’d be a fucking dream.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 40 points 13 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Lefties: got anybody yet?

See, this is what having a national party can do for you. Getting some ink 100years out.

To be clear, I’m not supporting this particular candidate or messaging, but I am saying if you’re planning to spike the anti-fascist movement again, please have a plan, and a name at least.

We’re years out. Start now. Next September is too late to yoink the midterms. September 2028 is too late to complain about how much Democrats love teh geniside. Start Now. Have a plan and a name.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

If the DNC wants to win they should put someone up who will do that. Mamdani is actively showing them what will hand them the win and Harris showed them what will keep them from it. They seem to be continuing with the Harris strategy.

Why AOC isn’t putting herself up for it and starting now I don’t know. She’s popular and well liked and has the right ideas, it would go pretty well. You’re right that whoever it is needs to start now, though. Of course, I did love that Harris coming up so late left the GOP completely lost as to what to do since they never really had a platform of good ideas.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

I think the Harris campaign started by being greatly benefitted from not being chained down by Dem consulting groups.

Unfortunately there was enough time for the consultants (and, reportedly, Biden’s “people”) to force enough errors that lost a lot of that Big Mo.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

any anti-fascist movement spearheaded by out and proud transphobe and anti-homeless firebrand newsom is already spiked...

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Nah he canceled that out by making fun of Trump /s

Sadly dnc and blue maga only care about that not his history of being barely left of an average republican

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Would I prefer a President Newsom to a President trump? Yes. Is Newsom trash that won’t actually change anything about how this country is broken or won’t change how corrupt the Democratic Party is, or won’t meaningfully improve Americans’ material conditions in a sustainable way? Yes.

People need to understand that what neoliberals like Newsom represent, is a perpetuation of everything that sucks about modern American governance. He might perform rhetorically in a satisfying way, some of the time, but he LITERALLY stands for NOTHING other than solidifying his own power and facilitating ’markets’. That’s it. While he is better at the speaking part of this job than some other Democratic Party leaders, understand that words are as deep as this dickhead gets. He and his corporate consultants will not actually improve anything, won’t meaningfully roll back fascism, won’t hold Republicans accountable, won’t reign in or regulate corporations, won’t give you healthcare, won’t stop the genocide, won’t fix media, won’t reform campaign funding, won’t build infrastructure, won’t prosecute business fraud, and on and on.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

SEE! The ONLY way for Democrats to Win is to be as RIGHT WING as Possible!

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