cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16451158
The fact that you think there's two sides is the problem.
this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2026
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Dump the f'n Electoral College!!!
The popular vote isn't better. The issue is having a first past the post system. We need something like ranked choice voting on a national scale.
We need a complete and fundamentally different structure to our political and economic systems.
Continuing to try and reform an intrinsically exploitative system which enables the systemic hierarchy of the owning class over the working class will never see progress towards the freedom of the working class.
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Dump the entire electoralist system.
You gotta keep voting the lesser of two evils for the main elections, while voting for the best alternatives you can find locally.
If you guarantee your vote to someone, they will lose any incentive to act for your benefit. It's really that simple. And if genocide is not a bridge too far for you, God help you, because obviously there's no limit to what you'll put up with.
Good thing Trump ended the genocide!
Anything to not have to grapple with the idea that just voting blue is not enough, huh? And are we going to pretend that Biden didn't gleeflully pour billions into the genocide?
Yes, don't vote at all. Better to have more genocide but having the moral high ground of not having voted for less.
Is it really that uncomfortable to engage with the idea? This is just an online forum, there is no possible negative consequence to whatever you write. Humor me, try to refute the idea that voting for a politician purely based on the actions of their opponent disincentivizes the politician to do anything for your benefit. Note that I'm not mentioning genocide, morality, blue, green, red or yellow or whatever. As far as I'm concerned this is about a fictional country called Fakeland with two parties.
If you guarantee your vote to a politician, what incentive do they have to give even a single shit about your standards of living?
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I know. It's like his opponents threw it away when they didn't firmly denounce the genocide.
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The idea is that you vote for the most pragmatic option at every election. No vote should be guaranteed, but at the same time it's still your civic duty to make a choice as a voter.
I understand the idea. I'm pointing out the big flaw in that idea. And I disagree that it's your civic duty to "just vote".
It's two-fold.
The overton window has shifted so far that we're getting warmongering from the democrats.
'Half' of the congressional left are sleeper agents for the right.
The DNC keeps pushing right and refuses to do anything to keep us from sliding into authoritarianism. Appeasing the right, Siding with Israel.
But not voting left is the same as voting right, that IS how the right wins.
And voting left is just giving them a blank check to keep sliding that window further right.
Neither party is going to let a third party in.
Appeasing the left is making them worse.
The rub, people think if they keep not-voting or voting independent, the DNC will give in and start moving stuff left. They won't. They don't truly want to win.
It's like fucking Brewsters millions out here, but "None of the Above" won't fucking help either.
I think, mostly, we can agree that the agenda of the "left" is the lesser of two evils, but the evils are getting so bad that we need desperately to do something to move the window back left a little.
I keep voting indepedent not to move the democrats left but to instead ensure there is still someone standing on the left when the Democrat and Republican parties eventually merge.
The two big third parties, the Green Party and the Libertarian party, both somehow manage to be worse than both GOP and the DNC. You literally have to do the absolute bare minimum to be better, but they can't even do that.
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I vote in all elections, while simultaneously believing all politics is theatre conducted by those that actually own the world.