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[–] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago

That’s what this shitfuck does. He ‘jokes’ about an idea, then repeats it until it sounds normal, then does whatever the fuck he wants and nobody does anything about it.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Can he have a stroke or massive heart attack or something already? Fucking hell man. Nature never takes the ones it should.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

99% sure he wasn't joking. He was plotting.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Meh, just hold one without him. Get an electoral college quorum and move the new guy in because it's 100% state driven and he can't change the constitution. Like an old time papacy schism, let God sort it out.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

20 bucks on Venezuela, 10 on Mexico and another 10 on Panama

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Don't they already have attack plans drawn out for Mexico?

[–] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They have attack plans drawn out on most countries.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

Sigh...that sounds accurate ):

[–] HardNut@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Person 1: I had to steal, my mother is sick! Person 2: Wow maybe I should go stealing things next time my mom is sick too!

Person 1: “I had to speed because I was late to my meeting.” Person 2: “Great, so it’s okay for everyone to break the law whenever they’re running late?”

Person 1: “We postponed our elections because we are at war and under martial law” Person 2: “Cool, I hope my country is at war next election season!”

This kind of retort is called a reductio ad absurdum, and I think you people are missing it because you have such a strong confirmation bias against Trump. The sarcasm is extremely clear. He's pointing out the absurdity behind Zelensky using martial law to postpone elections by using himself as an example, knowing that that would be a problem and that people would see it that way.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 minute ago

The USA does not have any occupied territories.

Should Ukraine disenfranchise those areas or leave them open to election tampering from Russia?

It's different, and trying to reduce one to the other is the absurd thing.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

So he thinks killing people is a joke.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 42 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Zelenskyy’s comment about war and instability was NOT BEING THE SIDE THAT STARTED THE WAR.

IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.

anyways, EPSTEIN FILES. WHERE THEY AT?

[–] AtrusOfDni@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

So Putin invades Alaska in 2028 to give him an excuse, got it.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

It's not even that. It's about what the country's structure permits. Ukraine doesn't allow for midwar elections, the us doesn't allow for skipping them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.

It's really not. Lincoln held midterms in the middle of the Civil War. FDR held elections after Pearl Harbor. Ffs, Bush cleaned up the year after 9/11 and rode the pro-war election wave through 2004.

The idea that your elected leadership is immune to recall when you're in a state of war is anathema to democracy. It insulates unpopular leaders and empowers military dictators.

There is no distinction, save that liberals like Zelensky and hate Trump.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

Bush was in the middle of his term a year after 9/11, I assume you mean the Republican Party?

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It makes a big difference whether the war is in your own country and touches everyone, or if it's waged elsewhere or touches only a small part of your country.

US Civil War didn't have 500 drones flying to various cities across US each day and night. If Ukraine had elections now, there would be queues on the street and those queues would get bombed by the Russia. I don't think this would have been a risk around the time of Pearl Harbour.

What is your suggestion for how the elections in Ukraine could be organized safely and so that the result would be reasonably representative?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

US Civil War didn’t have 500 drones flying to various cities across US each day and night.

The Confederate Army got as far north as Gettysburg, Pennsylvania by 1863. The Union Army's Anaconda Plan embargoed the entire Gulf Coast and resulted in the bombardment of cities as far south as New Orleans and Galveston. Sherman's march wrecked a trail of destruction from Atlanta to Savanah, across 285 miles. They didn't need remote controlled planes to bombard cities. They had troops outright razing cities to the ground month by month.

What is your suggestion for how the elections in Ukraine could be organized safely and so that the result would be reasonably representative?

Do Mail In Voting. That's the same method we've been using in peacetime and wartime, around the planet, for centuries. It worked during COVID in 2020. It worked to end South African Apartheid in 1994. Mail in voting was vital to maintain democracy during mass deployments in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. And, again, in the middle of the US civil war in 1862.

But, again, this isn't an issue of whether democracy can work. This is an issue of whether Zelensky can maintain his position as his popularity nosedives. What scares the shit out of American liberals is the idea that a popular vote in Ukraine will reveal people aren't enthusiastic about another year or three of grinding attrition with the Russians. Ukraine can't risk having an election that refutes the dogma of the hawks.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 41 minutes ago

Of cpurse Zelensky won't be able to hold his position if his popularity nosedives. That's a simple answer to a simple question.

But how is that.relevant? His popularity isn't going to nosedive in that manner anytime soon.

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If this mf tries for a third term. We civil war.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 hours ago

You have been at war since the January 6th beerhall putsch attempt. It's just that one side didn't realise and didn't even put your new dictator into a luxury prison first before letting him get re-elected. Rookie mistake honestly.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm hung over, can we reschedule?

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MBech@feddit.dk 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

yea, you know just like how he "joked" about rounding up brown people, or cut most people's medical aid, or destroy the american soft power.

you know, just funny things he would totally never ever do, because that would mean his voters are retarded.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

guys guys he's just joshing around. he's not actually gonna use the world's most notoriously influential military power to invade mexico or greenland when the economy fails and he needs to steal a bunch of shit to prop it up. those invasion plans theyre planning are just for funzies trust me bro

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 hours ago

Again? He was saying the same thing his first term

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 27 points 10 hours ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

Dictator does dictator things, Americans do nothing. News at 11.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

"It's just a joke! Unless..."

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Fascists manufacture wars to declare martial law and stay in power.

Just like Nazi Germany, Russia, Isreal

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Stop assuming he has good intentions. He does not

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

Anyone But Trump, 2028
Also, where are the Epstein files?

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 8 points 10 hours ago

Oh just dictator things.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

9/10 chance trump tries to cite the Ukrainian Constitution, then putin simultaneously tries to de-legitimize Zelenskyy.

Before any tries to use that as an excuse, let me say this: Ukraine has a different history, different circumstances, resulting in a different "social contract", you cannot apply a foreign country's constitution in your own country. Besides, all of their political parties have already agreed to postpone until after the war.

[–] lack@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Did he release the Epstein files yet?

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

We're way past that. He's doing full on fascist takeover

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 78 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He is NOT JOKING. This is his plan.

You think he's deploying the military on US soil because he gives a fuck about law and order? Guess again. He's testing the waters now to see what he can get away with when the time comes.

Federal elections have never been cancelled or postponed in the history of the nation. Not even for the Civil War, or WWII. It's mandated by the constitution.

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago

"by joking" you fucking dumbwits, are you not learning at all? He doesn't care if he can or not, he will bruteforce his way through legislation with his MAGAlitia. They are ALREADY utilizing fear and suppression with their masked terrorists kidnapping people off the streets or posting up next to demonstations. If you are not acting now, tomorrow might already be too late.

[–] brev@infosec.pub 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Was this more of a dig at Zelensky then anything?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I hope that’s all it was but with this maniac I doubt it

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