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[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

He wouldn't need a distraction from the Epstein files if he just released the Epstein files.

I wonder what Trump the pedophile is planning to do?

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's just another show for him.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Can't just "cut to commercials" on this one.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (6 children)

If the Epstein stuff is what finally brings down Trump, it would be peak irony. Its a low bar, but at least some of these MAGA ding dongs draw a line at diddling children.

I honestly thought there was no line for MAGA at this point.

[–] spencerwi@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, I don't think they do draw that line; 47% of Republicans would still vote for Trump even if Trump were implicated in Epstein's sex-trafficking activities – and those are just the ones who answered brazenly and honestly on the survey, to say nothing of those who say one thing in public and do another when nobody's looking.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Forty-seven percent of Republican respondents said such a revelation would not affect their vote, though based on other polling data this appears to reflect voter loyalty more than approval of the alleged actions.

Hate to tell ya MAGA, but voting for pedophiles is the same thing as approving of their actions.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

It's like the people absolutely shocked when they find out the Trump administration's horrible policies negatively affect them. 😐 ➕ 🐆

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Hate to tell ya. They know.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's still a billion-odd self-identified Catholics despite kiddy-diddling scandals and cover ups one after another. People are fine with criminals if they're their criminals.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

hell, I know folk who stay catholic even though it happened in their family. belief is weird.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That...and the other 53% of Republicans have no idea who Epstein is, or they are also implicated in the Epstein files.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

If the Epstein stuff is what finally brings down Trump, it would be peak irony. Its a low bar, but at least some of these MAGA ding dongs draw a line at diddling children.

I have kind of tuned out of this iteration of the Epstein scandal. Why would it bring him down now? Is there really any new information? Everyone with a brain knew he was friends with Epstein and on the list. Americans voted him in twice anyways. Why does it suddenly matter now?

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's that "everyone with a brain" bit that's different now. Because you're right, nothing here is new. Trump and Epstein's ties have been pretty common knowledge to anyone not in the cult.

What's changed is that those inside the cult can't really ignore it anymore. They went from "the democrats are all pedophiles and the Epstein files prove it!" to "they have the Epstein files on their desks, they are just doing some final checks before they release them" to "there are no Epstein files, there never were any Epstein files, and if you think different you need to shut up.". Cognitive dissonance may be a powerful force, but "the Epstein files" have been the conspiracy bread and butter that's been holding this cult together for a while now. They were probably willing to bend on just about anything but that.

A lot of hay is made out of the fact that Trump managed to fuck up running a casino, and it’s true. In a business where the saying goes "the house always wins", it takes a special breed of incompetance to bankrupt the house. This feels very similar. Dude could have said that aliens stole the Epstein files, Q-anon folks would have bought it. Or better yet don't say anything at all. I think a lot of folks wouldn't have bat an eye if Trump's cronies were still "working on releasing the Epstein files" in 2028.

But he didn't do that. He made a huge song and dance about "releasing the Epstein files" then obviously canned it at the last minute. For the rabid conspiracy theoriests that comprise his base, the folks who were willing to invent an entire child trafficing code for pizzagate, that was probably the one manuver even he couldn't pull.

Will this mean anything in the long run? Well, I've kinda had my hope beaten out of me in that respect. But this does kinda feel different, I will say that.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My question is what is going to be done if the files containdamning evidence against Trump?

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

The "good" news is that the reason most stuff never sticks is because most of his base (and the people as a whole...) never know about it. Yes, it is hard to miss if you at all pay attention to the news. How many people respond to a thread to complain about the paywall and ignore the article? Or actively reply without ever having read the article in the first place? Let alone the crowd who "prioritize their mental health" by ignoring everything anyway.

What makes the epstein shit special is that it has been the rallying cry of qanon, and much of the alt-right, for the better part of a decade. In a lot of ways, they are single issue voters with said issue being "god emperor trump is going to kill all the cheese pizza pedophiles in the epstein list".

And when your very identity is built around salivating over a list of who raped those kids and continue to receive irrefutable evidence that the man you put your faith in got his dick wet with those same child tears for decades?

[–] bobbyguy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

there isn't, they want to legalize deportation to active warzones, ice also has a racial bias (obviously), plus they let some trust fund billionaire who wasn't even part of the American government make massive budget cuts that will have massive concequences.

and technically there is a law that says no president of the united states can be convicted of a crime (for declaring wars and other crap) the side affect being that a 36 times convicted felon (and non-convicted rapist) can run for office, win, and then have all charges dropped

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[–] GR4CELESS@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm thinking he is being pressured by people with international buying power whose names are also on the list maybe

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 months ago

Pedos gotta stick together. Eww.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

My money is attacking Mexico without a declaration of war. Brown people are down there, it justifies the ICE budget, and other bullshit.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Read this morning he wants to give Russia access to Alaska.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

That’s psychotic. I want Alaska to re-join Canada - can be our 11th province.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A civil one, at this rate. He already hates the people in the country and there’s no one to go to war with since he became but-buddies with all the dictators and, despite everything, attacking Europe would probably trigger a civil war anyway.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He has repeatedly threatened Canada with violent annexation.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

True, though because of the connection we(Canada) have with the citizens I can’t imagine that going over very well. They’d be better off attacking their own people because other countries probably wouldn’t feel the pull to interject and they’re kinda just shitty like that. If they did attack us they’d be dealing with issues on their own side of the border as much as dealing with us.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everything is a distraction from the West giving up on liberty. It's not only the US.

tldr; new UK laws are extremly privacy invading requiering ID and face photos to acces any explicit material including sites like Wikipedia, similiar to some USA state laws and it looks like EU might just follow

https://feddit.org/post/17287420

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

These aren’t distractions, they’re just doing multiple awful things around the same time. Sometimes the timing is, sure, but these are all very real things that they’re doing. Calling it a “distraction” makes it sound likenthey wouldn’t have been so evil if they weren’t afraid but they love this shit.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Just two buds, out on the town... Raping.

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Soo.. turns out the major betrayal they came up with is giving Alaska natural resources directly to Putin.

Ok Donald. If you get Putin to leave Ukraine on Zelensky's terms, then maybe we can talk about something other than Epstein for 5 minutes. Maybe.

However, if you fuck over Ukraine, and then try to claim a victory for authoritarianism as a victory for peace (which you almost assuredly will) we double down on Epstein so fucking fast even JD Vance will start to regret betraying you to Rupert Murdoch before the midterms.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] Rhaxapopouetl@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

tl;dr: Trump biographer Michael Wolff said : "[Trump] is going to sacrifice Ukraine for Epstein".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Trump's been trying to loot and scoot Ukraine since his first day in office. Far too late to pin this policy on Epstein.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

I said war! Huh! Good god y'all.

What is it good for? Doing this probably.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

He's going to float the idea of giving Alaska to Russia, distracting people from the Epstein fiasco.

In other words: drumpf is a RAPIST and a PEDOPHILE

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