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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The last time the Democrats controlled the presidency, senate and house was during Obama, and it was only for like 100 days. Thats how obamacare passed. And despite being very flawed, it is one of the biggest improvements in the quality of life of millions of people.

Most of the time, the Democrats cant pass shit, because young, leftist voters, dont vote.

But yeah, continue not voting, punish the not perfect Democrats, give absolute power to maga. Surely that will bring the proletariat revolution into existence.

If tens of millions of people suffer and die in the meantime, what can you do, thats the price of the revolution. Thankfully, your middle class white status shields you from the consequences of your virtue signaling.

Just the destruction of USAID will cause hundreds of of thousands of deaths, mostly in Africa. Millions of people have been imprisoned and deported. And in before "Obama was deporter in chief", 95% of Obama's deportations happened either at the border or after someone was arrested(for a different crime).

If you have a latin friend, ask them if they were afraid existing when Obama was president, in comparison to now, where people are afraid to pick up their kids from school.

[–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's wild that you think strong democratic majorities will pass laws that help the working class when there are several states where this is the case and they don't pass significant redistributive social policies.

Why can't democratic trifecta states right now pass $25/hr minimum wage tethered to inflation? Or state run universal healthcare? Because their donor base is also composed of billionaires and cadres of business owners. What's more after a few cycles in office, they routinely leverage information asymmetries available as part of their supposed oversight roles to make money in stocks, become exceedingly wealthy and more detached from the needs of working people.

The Democrats have exclusively run pro-business national candidates for the past 35 years. It's naive to think without serious pressure from the Left (whether that's internal DSA pressure or something else) they'll put forward policies that actually help the working class. If someone doesn't want to be in your big tent with AIPAC, pro-business sycophants you portray them as ideological purists. Unreal.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why can’t democratic trifecta states right now pass $25/hr minimum wage tethered to inflation?

Most states with a democrat governor have 15$+ minimum wage. So the democrats have already done that. It is good enough? No, but it is better than nothing.

If someone doesn’t want to be in your big tent with AIPAC, pro-business sycophants you portray them as ideological purists.

Bernie literally almost won the democratic primary. But nowadays, not even Bernie or AOC are good enough for modern leftists, because they prefer Israel to continue existing.

I am not an american btw, but your first priority as an american should be to get rid of the literal nazis. This isnt about policies, this is about the foundation of a democratic state. This is what is at stake.

Look at Hungary. Is Magyar a good guy? No, but that was secondary to the main fucking point, which was getting rid of Orban and his cronies. This is why everyone, both left and right, supported Magyar. Will it last? Probably not, but at least maybe now Hungary can slowly become a normal country.

It’s naive to think without serious pressure from the Left

The time to reform the democratic party is during the primaries and the time to put extra pressure is when the democratic party is in a position to actually do things. Once the democratic party is in charge, we can start talking about policies(as the main issue), we can start talking about reforming the electoral "winner takes all" system, etc.

Ask yourself, where are all those student protests about Palestine nowadays? The radical leftists are the biggest opposition of the Democrat party and intentionally or unintentionally the biggest supporter of Trump. The no kings protests were the biggest protests in the history of the US and you still had tons of permanently online leftists shitting on them for some reason.

History doesnt repeat itself but it often rhymes. From the wikipedia article on the communist german party(KPD), before the nazis took over

In this period, while also opposed to the Nazis, the KPD regarded the Nazi Party as a less sophisticated and thus less dangerous fascist party than the SPD, and KPD leader Ernst Thälmann declared that "some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest [of social democrats]".

We have been doing the "both sides are the same" since the beginning of time. But no, both sides are not the same. A shitty side that at least respects some basic democratic foundations is preferable to the literal nazis.

There is no communism, there is no democracy, there are no pro worker policies, there is no dialogue, there are no elections, if you have literal fascists in charge.

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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Biden's first two years were a trifecta. Why you lying?

[–] cheffrey@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Need a strong enough majority to override a filibuster

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They haven't had that since the 70s

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

It's quick and easy to blame a specific party or whatever boogeyman du jour you want. It's much harder to do the work and takes a lot longer to actually actively participate in supporting stronger leaders and building a better future.

I can't and won't comment on OP's specific motivations, but the thing I consistently see with messages like this -- no viable solutions and no practical alternatives. Just fluff and fantasy, misinformation, and over simplification, amongst other problematic issues.

Voting is basically the lowest hurdle to participate and influence political outcomes (in the USA) and yet voter turnout is shockingly low. Of course that's going to be a big message from any party that wants to be part of the process. What this graphic specifically is doing is making it seems like that's the ONLY messaging coming from the Democratic party. It's the same ole song and dance as the fascists, misinformation.

Then, seeing how abyssal voter turn out is in the country, participation rates in all the other political activities is only a tiny little fraction of that. You want change? You want power? You'll have to participate and you'll have to persuade others, many others, to participate. You need to organize, and you need to have a plan.

Let's say you believe the shtick that Dems "do nothing to fight back", what things did you do to counter that? I'm sure here in the anonymity of the Lemmy, we all donated lots of money to other parties and candidates, knocked on doors and made calls on their behalf, helped support new and upcoming leaders (or stepped up ourselves) and convinced them to run for local offices so that they were in a great position to move up the chain to ever more important and influential positions, and we called our leaders from locals all the way up to federal level and let them know what issues we find important. But outside of the minuscule population on Lemmy, the US population as a whole did not. And memes laser focused on further disenfranchising people from the process definitely won't change a thing there. In fact, that's part of why we're here to begin with.

Oh, but InvalidName2, YoU DiDn't oFfEr aNy pRaCtIcAl sOlUtIoNs eItHeR, yOu'rE JuSt aS BaD.

I did, but if you didn't pay attention, you're not a serious person. I'd rather spend my effort donating lots of money the best candidates I can find, knocking on doors and making calls on their behalf, helping support campaigns of new and upcoming leaders, and talking to my elected officials from locals all the way up to federal level and let them know what issues I find important, and numerous other activities that align with my political goals. AND I'm also helping other people get involved where they can, supporting local organizations to amplify that support, and so on.

[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They tampered with the ballot box. If they won't listen to the soap box, The only box left is the ammo box.

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[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago (47 children)

It's almost like you have to win the election...

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