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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I was thinking about this the other day and if you're gonna gerrymander a state, having a state-wide vote about it first makes it a bit more fair.

[–] frightful5680@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Get the fire hose, let's paint the rest of the country blue too!

As long as we also get rid of conservative aspect of the Democrat party and make it one for the workers instead of big money interest, sure.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh but it's fine when you do it, Red? Fuck you, go ~~pound~~ eat sand.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago
[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats tried to ban gerrymandering for the last decade. Republicans have ALWAYS voted against it.

They know they lose when they don't cheat and they are upset Democrats are not playing nice anymore.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

also they cant gerrymander too hard, or they affect thier states republican strongholds. thats why they add in VOTER Suppression to top it off.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago

I like how apparently a partisan judge is trying to block this now.

Texas: Fuck voters, we're doing it without them.

CA/VA: Let's defer to the voters as we should. Ok, they voted for it.

Partisan Hack Judge: Wait, no, not like that.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 14 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

is there any actual benefit to having it subdivided at all in the first place? it just seems like another thing to fight over and undermine the value of particular voters.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Because it makes sense to have local districts represented in the state legislature?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Other than being able to use it to cheat in other to hold on to power?

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Theoretically you get hyperspecific representatives. Maybe a district in the west would want to vote differently than a district in the east. Theoretically your vote is still just as valuable and you're voting with your geographic peers.

In reality it just gets optimized for party votes and you end up with this

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

I'm in Texas. The far end of my district is over 400 miles away... And my district isn't even the worst example.

[–] kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

The sort of idea of it is/was to give farmers and people living in rural i.e. less population dense areas a “fair” amount of voting power compared to cities. The idea does make sense to some extent, as city dwellers often make up a majority of the population, and are unlikely to have the farmers best interests in mind, which could be problematic for everyone. But this already shaky line of reasoning has been abused pretty much since its inception by the party in power to swing the vote in their favor by redrawing lines

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Their crocodile tears have been delicious.

Totally on board with outlawing this shit entirely, by the way, but also totally over getting punched in the groin by the people who go low.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 49 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

It's also a great way of pressuring Republican politicians into actually banning it.

"You don't like us playing by the rules you wanted? Help us change the rules then!"

They'll only accept losing the power to gerrymander if it hurts Democrats more than Republicans.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The funny part is where you think Republicans would abide by their own ban, if not outright reverse it, the second they have a chance to reverse power.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 12 hours ago

that’s an easy solve though…

it’s pretty easy to put a number to how gerrymandered a region is: ungerrymandered means that if you were to look at all the votes in the state without districts that’s your ideal ratio… if you then add districts and that ratio is different, it’s perhaps gerrymandered

so if the goal is to stop gerrymandering, you get a bunch of states to sign some interstate compact that measures gerrymandering across the country and says any state that’s part of the compact will (perhaps in the next election, perhaps based on projections for the current voting maps based on prior voting behaviour) gerrymander to an equal or greater degree to offset or punish gerrymandering overall… ie you can gerrymander your state but at best it’ll mean nothing when it comes to the ratio of votes

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

We'll have to do it more. There's a reason they could only gerrymander 5 more seats into a state the size of Texas, and that's because Texas was and is already gerrymandered to shit.

They still don't want a ban because even after a few high profile Democrat gerrymanders, Republicans still benefit more.

[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Virginia has had a bipartisan districting commission intended to discourage gerrymandering since 2020. Unfortunately, it's designed terribly and just passes districting powers to the state Supreme Court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistricting_in_Virginia

The US just needs to have PR and stop doing this flawed fptp stuff

[–] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly that, I have stopped a while ago, I'll joke with some of the naive ones say I can upset them with one sentence but, tell I mean in jest but I can act just like them, they ask what and I say one simple phrase that works every time loL "all Republicans must die" Then I say I don't want to be serious about it so.....

[–] LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You know how MAGA has been full of shit every step of the way, trolling the libs with ragebait? Yeah, let's do that to them all the way to 2028.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago

The fact that their evil dickhead grifters are doing overtime to cry and blame the Dems for not taking the gerrymandering laying down is awesome. We're only here because of Trump demanding Texas gerrymander for five seats. You cocksuckers don't get to punch someone in the face then complain when they fight back. I fucking hate right-wingers with all of my being. Horrible traitorous human beings.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 37 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They control all 3 branches of the federal government, so I warmly welcome them to pass a law or ruling that makes partisan gerrymandering illegal.

If fighting fire with fire is what's needed to make them feel like it's a problem, then so be it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 8 hours ago

they cant, thats why they tried to pass the voter suppression bill, Save act.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 19 points 21 hours ago

Ok. First. Awesome! More. More. More of this. Democrats actually doing something. I'm happy.

Now, second, once you do something like this you have to be ready to fight HARDER now. My pessimism and time spent watching the Democratic party gives me an awful taste in my mouth.

If any, if fucking any Democrat tries to do the "what we need is to not allow blue states or red states to do this. We need reasonable democratic districts" they should be immediately be removed from the party. They are either delusional or just a Republican fascist. The Republicans aren't suddenly going to "be reasonable". Shut the fuck up and get out of politics.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We got a saying where I'm from. "Don't hate the player, hate the game."

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If only someone would make a law that prevents this. Surely conservatives would never oppose a law like that?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It gets tiring, pretending they care about hypocrisy. They truly don't.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I honestly think they revel in it. They love the fact that they can force rules to apply to you and then feel powerful when they break them when it suits their goals.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Exactly that. It's a power play. They do not experience shame.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They're toddlers

They really are

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Toddlers don't rape kids

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

like lil' maple maga Pierre Pollievre up here

keeps whining about liberals causing high prices and reduced affordability of everything. then literally just yesterday every single conservative voted against a food pricing transparency act. then continues whining about hidden taxes on groceries

my guy... you just voted against price transparency. shut the fuck up.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you.' Fool me—you can't get fooled again.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago

tennesee, the other Florida.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Yokels surrounded by empty land want their 3x voting power back, boo fucking hoo. I'm proud of my state right now. SCV better not shit the bed on this one.

[–] midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out it's actually much easier to gerrymander when you already have a 15+ point majority statewide

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 9 points 22 hours ago

Hardly call it gerrymandering with voting spread like that.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

whoopsie doodle

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It bugs me that there is such a simple solution: just count total votes

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

This is for members of Congress. Simply counting total votes would mean 100% of the delegation to the house are from whatever party gets 50%+1 votes.

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