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[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 15 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe Dems should try standing for something more than the status quo.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 22 hours ago

at least it exposed who supports the israel, aipac 100%. last thing the dinos want is Madmamis, aocs, and bernies being elected to the houses, and now PLATNER in maine of course. david hoggs was suppressed from the DNC. and there was an iraq war veteran that tried running to expose the hubris of congress.

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[–] becausechemistry@piefed.social 217 points 1 day ago (148 children)

One side aligns with my views 70% of the time. The other actively wants me and everyone like me to die. I refuse to acknowledge the differences between them. I’ll actually deploy this lack of understanding as a weapon to depress voter turnout and make sure the second group gets to wield power!

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 22 hours ago

it is propaganda method by the right, like your vote doesnt matter. thats how we end up getting schumers and hakeems of the congress, when less people vote, more conservative candidates are elected, this includes the DINOs. maine is currently fighting with susan collins, mills and platner 2 of them are conservatives.

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[–] Erna_muse@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

I don't see the value of the "both sides" argument. I think vote blue no matter who may have the value of shifting the overton window. But the reality is many of the people on the far left are just non voters making post hoc rationalizations. So I don't really care about their opinion.

It's actually really simple. The coalition required to reform the government includes the right and republicans. They actually vote. Really we should be looking at the tactics used to convert people from the progressive era.

In this way you avoid counterfactual arguments and actually have a path to follow. As opposed to feeling like you have some magical solution if only you were president.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 22 hours ago (8 children)

Uh.... I was offline. What happened?

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Malcolm X said:

I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”

MLK said similar things. The longer I live, the more I feel this sentiment. The genocide in Gaza cemented this. Never, ever, mistake a liberal for an ally.

[–] Endgame@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

That WAS a MLK quote.

Malcom X said liberals are like foxes. They look like they're smiling but then they'll backstab you.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Malcom X said things more like this:

Brothers and sisters, I'm here to tell you that I charge the White man. I charge the White man with being the greatest murderer on earth. I charge the White man with being the greatest kidnapper on earth. There is no place in this world that that man can go and say he created peace and harmony. Everywhere he's gone he's created havoc. Everywhere he's gone he's created destruction. So I charge him. I charge him with being the greatest kidnapper on this earth. I charge him with being the greatest murderer on this earth. I charge him with being the greatest robber and enslaver on this earth. I charge the White man with being the greatest swine-eater on this earth, the greatest drunkard on this earth.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (45 children)

You're right.

I should give Democrats credit for all the times they held power and still didn't do jack shit about the VRA except wring their hands and pretend to be powerless to stop the judicial repeal of it. (2006, 2013, 2021, etc. etc. etc.)

After all. Actually doing stuff requires effort, and it's unreasonable of me to expect the opposition party to actually oppose things.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Usually I'd put some electoral reform videos in a thread like this, but that time has long since passed us by.

Enjoy your 1%er divide and conquer propaganda.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Average lemming when 6 conservative Catholics appointed by Republicans gut voting rights: I can’t believe the leftists did this!

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

My standpoint is this: I feel betrayed by the betrayals, I'm frustrated by the things Democrats didn't do when they were in power. I accept as an unfortunate reality, at least some 1-15% of the Democratic party (can absolutely be more!) is corrupt and cares only about the NASDAQ, themselves, or Israel and ethnostates. That bloc will vote hard against anything pro-American like healthcare, defunding ICE, or defunding Israel. They might even pretend to support those things at times when no vote will pass.

There's also more than a few timid, ineffective Democrats that are only voting for obvious wins, and won't vote against any appointments because they don't want attention on themselves.

A lot of that, ultimately, doesn't matter. That type of opportunistic traitor, or coward, doesn't get much of a mechanism in a supermajority, where their choice to stand against Democrats doesn't even buy them anything; when over 50 seats in the Senate are NOT bought out by corporate interests.

By all fucking means, pick out the betrayals, watch people's individual voting records, vote in primaries, and raise a stern eyebrow anytime a voter tells you they "vote blue, no matter who". But don't pretend you can't look past nuance. We're dealing with a mammoth (R)ogue political party, which is the unfortunate reality, and even cutthroats could decide they benefit from taking credit in its destruction.

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[–] sweetiesweetie@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago

First they came for the palestinian And we voted for the genociders Coz the other guy's even worse I stand for absolutely nothing lmao

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (15 children)
[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

Welp, guess we're just fucked then

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