What I don't understand is, if booger-eating MAGA could hijack the Republican party a decade ago, why are progressive grassroots still waiting for permission from Woodstock attendants?
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There was a lot of money behind the tea party and then maga takeover. Its just not there the same way for the progressive since the billionaires are all on the other side or not getting heavily involved.
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MAGA did it from the top down. Trump became president and was able to strong arm people below him. He was even able to switch the RNC chair to a family member.
because the republican party is relatively united in thought and desire and via who is paying them all off.
The democratic party is more akin to 35 parties in a trenchcoat all pretending to be one party, thanks entirely to the forced nature of the two party system our government has.
And a lot of those in seats of power in the DNC and Democratic Party have the same masters/paylords as the Republicans and want the Democratic party to be nothing more than controlled opposition.
Firebrands like AOC and Bernie tend to get elected by accident, instead of by purpose, in the grand scheme.
I totally get that your two-party system is a massive detriment. Peter Magyar kind of ran on the idea to reform the political system of Hungary to make it more democratic - he focused on that rather than other policies. If first-past-the-post is the problem, then that's what you should address.
Jon carries a lot of water for the idea that the Democratic Party leadership are inept.
They are not. They accomplish every task they set out to.
The problem is that they don’t want the same things the voters in the party want.
They don’t want to “win”. The only thing they want is to maintain their proximity to wealth and power, and so they have cast their lot with the oligarchy, the same as Republicans.
The Democratic Party ”runs cover” (“block tackle” for you Europeans) for the Republicans while the Republicans overtly dismantle democracy. There is always a parliamentarian or a “blue slip rule” to help the Dems steal defeat from the jaws of victory. How many times do they need to strain credulity and invent some new excuse or mechanism for their failure for it to form a composite image of collaboration?
The Democratic Party is a honeypot used to attract and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and prevent the “Overton Window” of American politics from moving left.
At every crucial moment they have supported the privatization and financialization of the commons, the wars of aggression, the surveillance & police state, and they will continue to do so until Palantir storm troopers are dragging people from their Blackrock housing to Amazon work camps to fulfill their mandated techno feudal district conscription period.
Thank you. I'm tired of people thinking the neo-liberals of the Democrats are their friends. They point toward the few pieces of legislation they pass that's positive when they ignore all the needed legislation they never even give lip service to. In all the time since its inception payments for disabilities and similar have not risen to meet inflation, the amount they can keep in a bank account hasn't changed since like the 1970s. There's SO much wrong that the Dems could platform on and spend so much time doing if they win but they don't want to.
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Fuck the DNC.
The DNC is an open enemy of the left. They're explicitly paid by the oligarchy to oppose leftist candidates.
The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump's presidency. They did more than anyone else to ensure - not once but twice - that he would win. The voters made it very clear that they wanted a leftist, and the DNC effectively said, "Fuck you - you're going to get a pro-corporate, pro-zionist, neoliberal piece of shit and if you don't like it, that's your fucking problem."
And they're already laying the groundwork to do it again in 2028.
The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump’s presidency.
Yeah, I'm gonna hard NOPE right out of that assertion. The republicans are not virgins at a debutante's ball, they've been working directly toward this goal for at least forty years, and the ones that are up there now, including the house speaker and corrupt SCOTUS, are doing everything in their power to keep him there, marching in lockstep as they go.
Where is your broad censure for them, the ones actively planning and carrying out Project 2025, the ones robbing the country blind, the ones doing everything they can right now to ensure we lose our democracy? Because it's sure as fuck nowhere in your comment.
The DNC is an open enemy of the left. They’re explicitly paid by the oligarchy to oppose leftist candidates.
This is true, and by far not the DNC's only crime.
But when you give the actual perps a complete, total, 100% pass in favor of attacking the only people still trying to stop them (even though some of them are only vaguely gesturing in that direction, to be sure) you're batting for the wrong team.
That said, I'll never vote for a non-progressive over a progressive again as long as I live. If by that time I still have a vote that matters, of course.
The DNC's role in the rightward push is obviously less straightforward than the RNC's push, but it's at least as important. The DNC's job is to ensure that Republicans retain all of their wins moving right while Democrats make none that move left.
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The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump’s presidency
Man...
The craziest part is the ~400 some people that get to vote when a Dem doesn't win agreed with you a year ago when they voted for someone that wasn't a neoliberal.
Like, if it was 15 months ago, you'd be 100% correct.
The main problem, is you think "the DNC" is a monolith, and not just the chair getting a four year term to do anything they want.
Obama ignored the DNC because they worked with Hillary in the primary and went bankrupt.
So neoliberals kept going into 2016, rigged it against Bernie, and when Hillary lost and all the money had been siphoned off to the first Victory Fund, they had no choice to pick a neoliberal in 2017 to have access to the VF or the party would have died. Maybe it should have a decade ago, but it didn't.
That chair rigged it for Biden, and Biden put another neoliberal in charge of the DNC, and in return Kamala got the VF and the nomination with no primary.
Which takes us to 2025, and the ~400 voting members got a chance again.
And they picked the guy who ran Minnesota for a decade and has an incredibly strong track record anyone can easily look up.
We fucking won...
We got the party back.
The literal.only way we can lose it is if people check out of the Dem presidential and a neoliberal like Newsome gets the nomination and wins the general, that hands the keys of the party back and neoliberals will never let them go again.
No matter what happens, in the next Dem presidential primary vote for whoever is furtherest left, if nothing else to spite what you think the DNC still is.
Anything else and you might fuck us all
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I didn't mention what happened with the Victory Fund, after Kamala the DNC got the keys to it.
For the last year we've had the largest reinvesture of funds from the DNC to state parties...
All that money back to states that need it to win these races, instead of sitting in a bank account until it's time to throw another meaningless dinner with George Clooney.
We don't want a large powerful national organization... Like, we want bottom-up power structure and that's what we're going back to...
The stuff people want to happen is happening, it's been happening.
They just still suck at messaging, partly because they don't think the party should be driving the bus.
If you have faith in DNC chair Ken Martin then I've got a bridge to sell you.
He's the guy who promised to realease the autopsy of the 2024 election, and is now refusing to release it. You really think he's going to reform the DNC?
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I'm not an american, but it seems like the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.
There's this vibe of self-destruction in american society that is rooted in the 2 party system: one party is your mortal enemy and another doesn't quite represent you - so everyone just low key feels like destroying the whole thing rather than working on making it better.
This guy is from Maine, and they do have ranked choice voting for federal elections, one of the steps on the way to breaking the two-party stranglehold.
Of course the Republicans fought it tooth and nail, because they will never win another race with a system like this, and exploited a loophole in the state constitution to keep ranked choice out of state races.
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People get too deep into conspiracy theories. Establishment politics is problematic but I think people need to engage with how things actually work.
The rich and powerful are going to petition the government and the government will have some corruption. So the how is important because it informs how we put them back in their box.
He doesn’t need the DNC. To be honest. He’s probably better off.
Im in trump country Maine and some of the trump houses have his sign up.
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The older I get, the more I believe that some democracies are nothing but uniparty rule dressed up as choice. Japan is one example. The US is another.
It's actually extremely antidemocratic to hold up bipartisanship as a virtue. Literally believing that the more that the two parties act as one party, the better is beyond insane.
Japan has been run by the same party since the second world war, with a single brief change of power in the 2010s.
Japan has a ruling party and an opposition.
Looking forwards to that Schumer congratulations call.
I'll be waiting...
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