Not OC, duh.
Valve is truly one of a kind company, their marketing has been so effective that they managed to create a culture of idiots that go around the internet defending their products
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I mean, yes.
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Steam is a scary monopoly, getting scarier.
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It's not their fault the industry (minus GOG) comitted mass seppuku.
Both can be true. One can worry about Valve, and use them hesitantly, while laughing at everything else like it's a cartoon.
agreed, i still dislike GOG'S AI take.
No shit. It kills me when people play on console. I mean I get the simplicity and all, but they try to use the "it's cheaper" angle and yeah, bullshit. It's initially cheaper, then you're paying what $20 a month to just play online, then games are $10 off at most on their respective stores and then you get to rebuy them when a new console comes out.
Steam games are like 50%-90% off constantly, and Epic has free games like every week. I've had games for over 15 years through steam. So yeah I paid $1,000 for my PC but after 3 years console owners have spent $1,500+ after monthly fees and buying games.
I just bought a Switch 2 and am playing Pokemon Champions lol. Consoles are not horrible
Did you even read the entire comment or are you just here to provide a random fact about yourself and contribute nothing?
this is the reason why i dont like Consoles, If you ignore Video Game choices.
(if you want to know Video Game choice: TF2 Is not on Console for example, ik it used to be but not anymore,but its one of my favorite multiplayer game, no multiplayer video game i found is like it.)
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Competition actually exists, GOG, Epic, itch.io. More used to exist but they were shitty, inferior products and died out because of that. Steam grew up to being the standard it is now and we come to expect it. It'd take same or better to unseat them.
yeah i know,but i feel like Steam's competitors are inferior.
(personal opinion though)
Save for Epic the other two set out with what they intend. GOG wants you to buy games without DRM that you can download installers for whenever you want to install them. Generally more consumer choice.
ItchIo wants to be a place for small, indie developers to get a spot in the market without having to rely on Steam. Smaller games and media for consumption that I don't think takes a big of a bite out as Steam does.
Steam has some legitimate criticisms to it certainly, and Gabe is part of the class of people I don't like. But certainly not a monopoly.
After hearing his connection to Musk I am starting to wonder. All is not what it seems.
There's no such thing as a good billionaire. Some are less bad than others, but none are good.
I can get wanting to have enough money to live comfortably. But that line is crossed way before the "billionaire" mark.
They have more money than they could ever hope to spend in 10 lifetimes. So it is a conscious decision they make, to say "Instead of putting everything I don't need to a good cause, I'm going to hoard it and buy a few more yachts instead."
Steam is a shitty business. They run a gambling scheme for children, they take a huge cut from devs (blabla industry standard blablabla), they make billions and basically employ less people than an indie studio. The fact that so many gamers would take a bullet to protect this billionaire dude is beyond me. Of course the guy is super right wing, you don't run that type of business without being.
Yeah, I am definitely guilty of giving Steam a free pass because I used their service a lot.
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Is it a "good" monopoly though?
atleast they are not abusing it?
Me playing steam games on an arm handheld right now cause you can just install an arm build of the steamos frontend on any arm linux device and with a little tweaking my games just work. Its actually amazing, modded terraria, trackmania, schedule 1, etc just work.
an arm handheld
Yes, that's usually what the hand is at the end of.
Did you see the leg football match last night?
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It's still a monopoly though. The misconception is that calling Valve a monopoly, is somehow an attack on Valve or blames Valve. It's just a description of Valve's position in the market.
Also, shame on whoever thinks Valve won't ever abuse this position at some point in the future.
Funny meme tho, just being pedantic
The meme I hate is "Valve wins by doing nothing". You cannot be any further from the truth. Valve has won so far by doing many things right, they keep doing many things right. It's like IT or maintenance work, or being God, your work is invisible until everyone dies.
Don't be a bastard, and do the right thing. That's hard to do apparently.
It’s still a monopoly though.
No, it is not. You and the other commentators need to stop repeating that propaganda lie by the true monopolists of PC gaming (Epic, Microsoft,…).
All of Steam combined makes up a fifth of the PC gaming revenue. A fifth! That's a very good percentage but a fifth of anything is not a monopoly and that's not even including mobile and consoles where Valve isn't even competing at the moment.
Fortnite, Rocket League, Valorant, League of Legends, Minecraft, still World of Warcraft, Roblox,… are where all that PC gaming revenue is concentrated but a few mid-tier games sell best on Steam (because the same priced copy on EGS offers worse value) and suddenly everybody keeps repeating the lie of the true monopolists that the company that isn't classified in the EU as a gatekeeper under the Digital Markets Act is a monopoly (but Microsoft is).
I know you didn't make this graph, but what was whoever-it-was smoking when they put the line for VR all the way up there? It should be slithering along the bottom right like a snake.
I know you didn’t make this graph, but what was whoever-it-was smoking when they put the line for VR all the way up there?
From what I've learned from buddies who are into VR, it's a really weird subculture of super high end headsets, sometimes even full body suits with force feedback, and other shit. Honestly, wouldn't be surprised if all that revenue is A) real and B) relying on a few big spenders.
That's not the issue. The issue is the callout on it says the VR market is only $5 billion at its peak, which is well below mobile, which the gold VR line is drawn above, correlating with the position of being greater than $180 billion on the Y axis on the chart. Which is not how line charts work.
Damn, handheld virtually nonexistent since 2020
Microtransaction-laden cell phone games very infamously oozed in and ate that entire market's lunch. It turns out for short duration video game adjacent distraction on the go, people would much rather use the device they already have with a "free" (only up front) option rather than pay for a Gameboy/DS/PSP and games to go with it.
Square discovered this the hard way when they tried to release their various Final Fantasy remakes on smartphones in the early days as if they were regular games, i.e. pay $4.99 or whatever and have access to it in theoretical perpetuity and to the nearest decimal point, no one bought any of them. It turns out consumers respond much more positively to downloading a game for "free" and then coughing up several times more in microtransactions over time than buying any given title outright would cost, and/or being incessantly bombarded with ads as they play. Obviously the industry has figured this out and now everything you can play on your cell phone is feemium pay-to-win microtransaction hell built around slot machine mechanics, but it doesn't matter because it apparently prints money.
Has valve ever done anything to stifle the competition?
People call Valve a monopoly, and they are right but... is it a monopoly because they wanted to become one? Or because the competitors are completely clueless about what do the customers want? Can we blame Valve on becoming a monopoly when they simply are listening to the customers while the competitors (like Epic) keep ignoring users demands?
EA, Ubisoft, Microslop... they all tried to make their own launchers to move away from Steam and they all failed. Why? Because they wanted to make those launchers their way, while actively telling the users to shut up about their demands on what would make the launchers great.
Epic... Epic keeps throwing fortnite money to EGS launcher but keeps ignoring the most basic user demands.
Like, dude? I'm telling you that, for buying your product, it must have A, B and C. But, instead of offering me that, you make a product that lacks specifically A, B and C. And you expect me to buy it?
It is a monopoly, but because nobody else is even trying. And that pisses me off.
is it a monopoly because they wanted to become one?
Valve is a for profit company, one of their main goals is to make money.
It is a monopoly, but because nobody else is even trying. And that pisses me off.
It is a monopoly because they hooked everyone to their own proprietary third party software launcher, you should be pissed of about not owning any of your games
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Fun fact for those of you who stream from a gaming pc to laptop/steamdeck/whatever: you can add 3rd party games (like those off GOG) to steam and stream them without buying them on steam.
There's also Sunshine/Moonlight and you don't have to buy your games at all.
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