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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

I don't think that is actually the innovation that made us own the planet.
One human throwing rocks? Meh.
15-20 humans working together, some throwing rocks, others fetching new ones, or supplying the throwers? Jup. That would do it.

So, community and working together is what allowed us to win the crown.
We better not stop doing that..

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

If you look at combat between predator/prey it's nearly always about who can attack while further away. Being able to throw rocks and pointy sticks was I think equally as important as being able to develop co-operative social groups.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Communication, abstract planning, and being able to walk 100km without stopping is what really won it for us.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Ants are much better organised, but they don't rule the planet

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, there were studies done that found a human can't reliably throw a rock hard enough to kill even a rabbit from pretty close range. Rocks are blunt and usually only stun the target.

It was the fact that a dozen people all throwing rocks is an unassailable obstacle to any predator or prey. You can corner animals or ward them away. And if you think about it that's always been roughly how human wars have gone: masses of spears, slings, arrows, bolts, bullets, shells, missiles, etc. Our one big trick is a DDoS of violence.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Am I a joke to you?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 35 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

"Try pointy stick."

"Me no want to."

gets stabbed by pointy stick

"Me now see value of pointy stick."

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

And my axe!

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But that would be a stabby stick. A pointy stick is to point at stuff.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 2 points 15 hours ago

What’s brown and sticky?

Tap for spoilerA stick!

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[–] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

When apes learned to sharpen sticks, every other animal was FUUUUUUUUUCKED. Those animals should try not to be so stupid though. Dogs and cats are smart. They joined our side.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Going strong for over 30,000 years.

Dogs and cats are smart. They joined our side.

Dogs and cats are half the fucking problem.

[–] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

A recent study by the Smithsonian Institution and the US Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that domestic cats kill about 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion small mammals each year in the lower forty-eight states. This is far higher—and probably more accurate–than previous figures, and likely exceeds all other sources of human-related losses of these animals.

[–] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure we are in the same conversation, brother. I said that cats benefited from befriending humanity. You seem to be posting statistics that argue in my favor.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I said that cats benefited from befriending humanity

Absolutely. And I added that they're a primary agent by which humans propagate the Holocene Extinction.

Like, we wouldn't be nearly as successful at killing so many small mammals and insects if we weren't bringing domesticated cats with us all over the world.

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[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

People think we won because of our big brains or fire use, no, it's cause we have the only halfway decent ranged ability in the game.

We broke the assumption that billions of years of evolution was built on, distance = safety.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We basically collected the unstoppable exodia:

  • ranged damage
  • team ups
  • infinite stamina
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

LMAO. Birds. All I gotta say.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago

Birds are pretty vulnerable to stamina diff exploit, sadly

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I threw a pinecone at a bird that was picking at the siding. Seemed to break his brain to see something coming at him like that.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 28 points 22 hours ago

you: throws pinecone at mach 30

birb: is-is that a.... squints

birb: GAH! FUCK!!!

1000003641

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Don't forget sharp stick! Sharp stick game changer

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I give you vine to attach to end of pointy stick, make you sling pointy stick much faster.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

Can’t overlook banging rocks together to get a sharper rock. Big tech, invest now!

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[–] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 17 points 23 hours ago

Dexterity exploit speedrun.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Monkeys can and do throw things that are much smellier than rocks.

[–] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Trivia time: Chimpanzees are the best primates after man at throwing.

At best they can throw things at the level of semi-athletic child.

Humans have unique rotating shoulder joint that just gives us a huge edge over any other species, when it comes to throwing things.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yes, this, it's sapiens adaptation/specialisation, we take it for granted. Much like (related) stick use dexterity, which is another warfare advancement that should've gotten nerfed a few million years ago.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We won the arms race, we have literal arms

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We didn't even need to throw a rock. There's evidence that early man was a persistence hunter.

All other animals sprint. But man is the only animal that could jog them to death by jogging and never stopping until the animal collapses from exhaustion.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In addition to the ability to jog, run and walk during the hottest part of the day ... early humans could avoid most predators who were less capable of being active in the heat. The benefits of being a hairless sweaty upright ape.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Op skin (that does need some high tech maintenance in form of clothes, and other winter logistics/planning).

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

"Saying a big hello to all you sentient lifeforms out there and for everyone else the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys!"

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

And not just throw rock, also run very long distance.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

The white, African man learned to throw rocks. Yeah...

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a Neanderthal according to reverse image searches for the original illustration. There were light skinned Neanderthals in Europe, so it’s not an inaccurate illustration, just an inaccurate caption

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps a bit inaccurate image use with that description as well.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s what I was trying to say in terms of the caption being inaccurate

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 3 points 17 hours ago

Oh, yes, that's clear actually, no idea why I thought I was adding to the convo, lol.

[–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Idk, kinda looks like a neanderthal doesn't it? Big brow, big nose, flat head.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes, I'm mocking the caption. As if Neanderthals learned how to throw rocks before monkeys or humans in Africa that came before Neanderthals.

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