That took an expert?
If you don't train juniors you don't get seniors to fix shit or to build you more AI.
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Every C-Suite think they will be able to snatch senior devs that other companies will train.
This is already the case at companies like Valve and Netflix. They “don’t hire junior devs”…
I applied for a job at Valve a couple of years ago and was told that my over decade of development experience didn’t make me senior enough.
Valve has the sweetest of all business models: do almost nothing, make tons of money. They have so few employees.
They really believe that seniors will move to their slop based company after all the shit they dug themselves into. The heads of these ceos must be full of unicorn shit and rainbows.
The bourgeoisie no longer holds any care whatsoever for sustainability.
Quire seriously, their only goal is to obtain enough wealth and power that they won't feel the effects of losing any of it until they die. That's their literal goal. All hell is allowed to break loose, but only after they die.
Let the other companies be the suckers that take a loss on training juniors into seniors
You know, those other companies that also use AI instead of hiring juniors.
Not to worry just let them burn the companies down themselves
Gen Z? This bullshit has been ongoing since the early 00's. Every fucking company wants applicants with 5+ years experience straight out of the gate, with training provided by anyone else but them, and to pay the new hire as if they rolled out of their High School grad through the front door. Look to Gen Y if you want to see what's going to happen again (more self-service kiosks and useless chatbots). Many of the kids training for these jobs are going to completely abandon their chosen career track in favour of work that's responsive to their needs - things like actually responding to applications and paying their fucking rent/mortgage. I'm finding to people in their early 20's who're already sick of this shit, without a clear understanding of what's happened to the labour market.
Good, let ‘em ruin themselves. We need the people in healthcare and education anyway. In the meantime, tax the companies to hell because they’ve lost all value now they’re not even “creating jobs” in your country.
Not all that great for the people who now can't get jobs.
Take me for example. I like to think I'm a pretty good software engineer. And I actually enjoy it. I'd be a pretty bad doctor and an even worse teacher (I'm also a man so that would limit me to teaching teenagers and older anyway, nobody wants men near children in education).
Don't give much of a fuck about the companies, but a lot of people are now denied a career path that might've been THE thing they're great at and enjoy doing. This is about several different fields, of which mine is one. I'm quite lucky I got in when I did. Otherwise I'd have to start considering suicide by now because I can't stand manual labour or customer service.
Don’t you think that’s a bit much? People committing suicide because they can’t get their favourite career path? I have never heard of it being a problem. Before computers existed there were people like you and they didn’t all commit suicide. They chose the jobs that were available. Sure it takes some adjustment and it may not be a string of everlasting highlights, but let’s not get carried away here.
Find me a meaningful and challenging job that doesn't get boring over time, that I don't need a degree or any sort of artistic talent for.
I doubt you'll be able to. The only job I ever held before my current career was refurbishing laptops and I can tell you most of us wanted to kill ourselves. Half the guys were on antidepressants.
Not really.
It’s all about the rate of change: neoliberal globalization has brought down wages across industries, so fewer good jobs are left, and the not-so-good ones barely keep up the same standard of living.
From a neutral historical perspective, some serious pearl-clutching about jobs is not ill-founded.
As you say, people in the past facing these circumstances didn’t all commit suicide. Yet some did it explicitly, some did it indirectly with alcohol or other vices, others just lived less fulfilling lives than they otherwise would have. Nonetheless, we are very much encouraging deaths of despair en masse with our current societal outlook.
Society will adapt. It always has. People can make much more meaningful contributions to society than working at a desk in some software company. Let the AI do that. Humans are way too valuable for that. Meaningfulness of the work one does is one of the most important features of work satisfaction. Not everyone needs to be a doctor, nurse or teacher. Those are just the most common examples, but there are many more meaningful jobs where you are not simply an AI in human form slaving away at a desk job.
It is also simply not true that things like suicide and addiction rates were higher in the recent past. For example, look at drug overdose rates that have risen sharply in the past decades.
You’re sweeping a lot under the rug with that first sentence: Society will adapt. Yeah sure, barring global catastrophe, it will. Doesn’t mean people won’t die and suffer in the process.
I’m making no claims about good vs. bad jobs here; people can self-actualize however they like in my book. Nor was I making any specific point about epidemiology of deaths of despair in the recent past, but I think that trend serves to illustrate the overall point.
AI has many glaring fundamental flaws that there has yet to be any determined solutions to.
New technology isn't adopted when its good and ready to be. Its adopted when the bourgeoisie who have all the money, and no brains, think it's ready to save/make them money.
As well AI, even by automated agents and the best models so far, cannot reach the ethical and quality match of a human in terms of being limited by the input it receives. Sure it can gather some of the finest research and paths towards solving a problem quickly. However, the value of the input and outputs are predictions that sometimes do not match the quality needed for well-being. Whatever the size of the model and memory available, it is a failure to think that it will keep refining to a point of perfection. It is a matter of some probability, and every case is based on the limits of its inputs. Thereby I treat it as a tool that expands my abilities rather than a business focus to focus on profit and making it an ability that replaces quality. You cannot replace quality for speed of quantity in processing and calculation. For instance, processes in programming schools allow for quality, now being abandoned for automated checks which in themselves are the wrong way to look at things. Someone said you cannot automate quality. Oh how I wish I could find work to make sure development processes are adjusted for AI as a tool, and its automation reaches the needs of people, designers, and engineers rather than the whims of a business role.
AKA "The great corporate filter of the 21st century".
But how will it effect next quarter?