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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 87 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (27 children)

Obligatory fuck brave. What's wrong with nord exactly?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I don't know much about Nord's quality as a service, but I know that they really spearheaded the effort to spread misinformation on how Internet security works (claiming that a VPN would protect the information you enter into a website when HTTPS already does that) via YouTube ad reads. That alone is enough to make me swear off ever using them.

[–] Chezus9247@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Urgh. I use Mullvad, it's just 5€ per month and so far works great. I hope there's nothing bad I don't know about it. lol

[–] vodka@feddit.org 20 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Mullvad complies to all legal requests!!

Which doesn't matter since they're properly setup for there to be nothing law enforcement can get out of them.

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[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also they're spending just wayyyyy too much on advertising for my taste.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Lots of VPNs are actually owned by one company, like Nordvpn and surfshark are both owned by Nord security, lemme find the list...

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Nord is a company that spends a lot of money on ads. They pay a lot of youtubers. In general, when a company uses most of their money on ads, they tend to get as much users as possible while not spending a lot of money on quality. I don't trust those companies.

Friends of mine say it's fine. But they don't have anything else as reference. I can't say for certain, but Nord isn't the safest and most private VPN out there. Also some VPN providers log traffic, which can be confiscated with a court order. Again, I'm not sure if this is the case with Nord.

I myself use Proton, which is completely privacy based. Their company changed to become a foundation to ensure their privacy focus no matter who might be in power in the future. Their prices are fair, their services are good. They don't spend money on ads, they spend all their effort and resources into making internet a better place.

As soon as companies are sponsors for many youtubers, I don't trust them.

For instance, opera used to be an awesome browser made by a Norwegian team. They sold it to a Chinese company that provides predatory loans in poor African countries, completely destroying family's lives. They promote the shit out the browser, while it also saves your data and uses your machine to farm crypto. Evil as fuck.

While the original creators of opera started a new browser which is how they believe it should be: private, your property, full of personalization, no bullshit. It's called Vivaldi. But they don't promote it like Opera does. Because they are honest and don't want to waste resources while they can better use that for improving their product even more.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

NordVPN is good for getting around geoblocks, not so much for privacy

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[–] ddplf@szmer.info 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Been using LibreWolf browser for a short while now, pretty great if you get rid of some of the more radical features like full data cleansing on each shutdown.

And it's based on Firefox, not Chromium, which is pretty sweet if you ask me

Also Vanadium for my phone, came preinstalled with GrapheneOS and I have no reason to change it, it's really good too

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago

yeah

librewolf is based

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Yes, Google Chrome installs AI locally ~~without consent~~ automatically, Brave forces you to use their cloud services.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 45 points 5 days ago

... and Brave is also basically a marketing scam

[–] OppressedBread@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Consent? What's that, huh?

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago

Do you know what consent is?

  • Yes
  • Remind me in 3 days
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can you tell me more about brave and what you mean?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When you launch Brave for the first time, it will push a lot of services like Brave News, Brave AI, their video call platform etc., all cloud services. Technically, they're all open source, but I wouldn't trust them. They have released a separate version, though, which keeps all this things disabled, which is paid on every platform except Linux builds.

Still, Brave is a whole lot better than Chrome, but I wouldn't trust either.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 54 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Brave was created by an anti LGBT asshole

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 25 points 5 days ago

And an advertisement company

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[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 50 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can do better than chrome with Edge. That way two companies are keeping your data secure instead of just one!

[–] OppressedBread@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 days ago

Yk what thank you, there's always room for improvement

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 44 points 5 days ago

always lol @ brave

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What’s the issue with Signal? I haven’t heard of any actual vulnerabilities from their end, just standard phishing on the user side.

[–] Kommeavsted@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

They don't invade your privacy or share data with third parties or even use your data to train AI. Yucky, no thanks

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unless you're the government, then the issue is just that it works

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unless you dont know how group chats work and add random journalists.

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[–] gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What's the thing you replaced with NordVPN? Just so I know to avoid it, of course.

Also, I'm not sure if you're doing the same, but I collect all data about myself, including metadata, and mail it directly to the NSA. Just saves them the hassle.

[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 44 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Finally, finally, I can answer something. I recognize the logo.
https://obscura.com/

[–] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Is this better than mullvad? I've had nord for a while but finally cancelled and am going to get a new one when my sub expires.

[–] dreamy@quokk.au 11 points 5 days ago

Doesn't even support Android/iOS, still in its infancy, and the benefits it provides are not really needed unless you're a high-profile individual in which case you should just use Tor + WebTunnel.
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[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Seems like Obscura uses mullvads exit servers so I would imagine it would be a similar level of anonymity. Can't speak on feature parity though, that will have to come from someone who has used both services.

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[–] OppressedBread@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

Its either mullvad or nothing all day everyday

[–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

You're glowing

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

I find this to be 100% accurate and every one should follow this guide to maximize their security

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