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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 151 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh good, more earth to pillage.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Brighter note, to date is still the best way to make batteries, we need it to build storage capabilities for a grid based on renewable energy.

Unfortunately we'll probably end up using it for disposable vapes instead

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Sodium ion batteries would be better for grid storage. They're cheaper, more durable, and work in a wider range of temperatures. Plus they're going to market within the year

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 79 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why is it never in MY yard???

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You own the mineral rights of your backyard?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'd like to say yes, but I'm not going to check. Too much effort to look through all my documents.

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Have you tried planting greener grass?

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[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Just install an industrial military complex in your backyard, then use it to extract lithium or oil from all the sources. Its a tried and tested method.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump: "So the oil is under the lithium? How does this work?"

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago

It's more like his cronies will claim it's under federal jurisdiction then sell all rights to one of trump's sons for a button.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Really bizarre to write or post an article saying this deposit was 'discovered'. This is decade old news. I saw the headline and thought 'oh nice that's like a whole other Thacker Pass' but it literally is just Thacker Pass.

Somebody needs to figure out a way to prevent people from upvoting headlines of articles they haven't read because as far as I can tell there is absolutely no reason to post or upvote this.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 47 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Lithium isn't quite like gold. It is not rare at all. The news isn't that it is there, the news is that someone has found a place where it is relatively easy to dig, and lots of it.

In only a few years, most batteries will be made without lithium anyway.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

In only a few years, most batteries will be made without lithium anyway.

Citation needed.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sodium-ion and maaaaybe iron are promising, with sodium-ion making the most headway.

https://batterycouncil.org/battery-facts-and-applications/about-sodium-batteries/

Not quite widely commercially available yet, but I wouldn't invest heavily in lithium is it was me.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ehh.... Lithium batteries are going to be around for quite a while even if sodium ion batteries take off. It's just more energy dense than sodium ion, so it's always going to be better for things like portable electronics.

Sodium ion might take over the market for heavier batteries like stationary power banks.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Consult a periodic table. Lithium will always out perform sodium. Sodium batteries only exist because lithium costs more, but these large deposits are being found worldwide every few months and lithium will drop in price as a commodity. At some point, recycling will require much less new lithium to be mined.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would be hilarious if China figured out efficient electrolysis and powered all their stuff using hydrogen but our huge and inefficient data centers needed all of our fresh water.

Hilarious. 😒

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like america could use some freedom

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

Abundance of critical minerals and lack of democracy. Very dangerous combination, deploy military democracy enforcement!

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] gurty@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Has anyone done the ‘US invades itself’ joke yet?

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[–] bss03@infosec.pub 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good, the children yearn for the lithium mines. /s

Maybe I should re-train from computer programmer to lithium miner?

[–] uairhahs@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't think the people in power care for those sort of miners

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Here's the study in Minerals. I'll caution that it's an MDPI journal, but it's better than Earth.com's content mill dogshit.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Honest question: What's wrong with MDPI? I've published in one of them, and noted that they (MDPI) have been spamming for more ever since, but other than that I haven't heard of any issue with them.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 17 points 2 weeks ago

The Oregon Chapter of the Sierra Club indicates they support cleaner energy but believe drilling must not come at the expense of fragile habitats.

Foreign lithium isn't magic, zero-footprint lithium. We are a major consumer of lithium, and will probably increase if we're going to move to BEVs. If we're going to consume it, it only seems fair to the rest of the world to have some of the footprint in our own territory.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like it's time to bring the U.S some Freedom! 😎🪖🕊️

[–] BennyInc@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Time for the US military to enter and bring them democracy. Wait…

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It hurt itself in its confusion!

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[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago

How much you wanna bet that Trump will somehow cause the entire deposit to catch fire?

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

BEVs and energy storage needs to move on to safer battery systems. Lithium batteries have killed a lot of people already.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So has oil. Probably far more than lithium ever will.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

CATL has a sodium ion battery car coming out this year. Literally zero risk of thermal runaway, more resilient in extreme high and low temperatures and many more life cycles than lithium ion at a lower cost.

America is falling behind in every possible metric.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

America is falling behind in every possible metric.

So that’s why they don’t use metric system?

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

bet it's inside a national park that the GOP just exposed through government rollbacks.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

RARE EARTH METALS ARE NOT RARE!

Lithium is the 25th most abundant element in Earth's crust!

we see these head lines all the time because it is everywhere, the problem has never been finding it, it's been refining it, and china has a Monopoly on the refining techniques and refuses to do business with anyone who tries to adopt the technology and restricts travel of the people with the knowledge to do so.

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[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

wow MONEY and VALUE for STONES for SOMEONE upstream from the LABOR

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

Who is going to invade USA this time ?

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