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The problem is that each conservative mind has to personally experience the betrayal instead of having empathy and realizing it beforehand. This is why they want to destroy education, so they can more easily control us.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

OMG these fucking people.

Great. Fuck You.

Fuck you, you stupid idiot. Let us guess, now his bullshit is effecting you.

I HOPE YOU SUFFER.

[–] siskourso@odin.lanofthedead.xyz 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But yet he will still vote R next election.

[–] thlibos@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'd bet my life savings on it...

P.S. Let's be real. The way people received and processed info in the 1930s and 40s was completely different. I am somewhat sympathetic to the idea that a large percentage of German's who supported Hitler didn't have any idea what Hitler or the Nazi Party was really up to. No such excuse exists for the simpletons who couldn't figure out who Trump and many other GOPedos really are between 2015 and 2024.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They didn't care because all it takes is a threat to what little middle class people actually have for some fast talker to come in and tell them how he'll protect that from the people (like him) that plan to take it. Oh, that and the threat of people who don't speak the language the middle class speaks coming to take their jobs/children/money/daughters/religion/freedoms. Middle class people are fucking stupid and easily manipulated.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 34 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They got tricked by the dumbest most obvious zero carisma con man.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Election night 2016 was the Wizard of Oz curtain reveal moment for me.

I knew stupid people existed, but that night made it clear how stupid and how many there were in this country.

Terminal.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Same, went to a bar to watch the results as they came in, and I thought there was no way, right? He was just so obviously toxic, a con man, awful. But then it started looking like he was winning, then they called it.

I don’t smoke, but I went outside to get some fresh air and bummed a cigarette. I just had no idea what to do, felt despondent. Now just look at us! :(

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I don't get why people even like Trump. His personality is so pff putting. There is nothing likeable about him

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are the same type of trash humans. They relate to trump because they are the same and believe that they should be wealthy and unaccountable. They are pro rape, pro pedophilia, pro racism, pro genocide, pro mysoginist, cuck losers. they believe in the colonialist heirachy that places white men(simply for existing) above the rest of the racialized and gender casted working class. They don’t understand that enforcing this system oppresses them too because they are not educated and that’s by design. They act as the enforcers, policing those who don’t conform to the system that benefits only the capitalist class. A lot of these toxic fascist right wing white males are handed six figure jobs right out of high school. These types of jobs are unionized and seem to hire their friends and family while gatekeeping and hazing minorities out. enter the police force, union construction, fire department, ice, prisons corrections ect… without a college degree and be making six figures, with retirement and full benefits almost immediately. These unions always seem to be the only unions not under constant attack. These jobs are dominated by white men who then think it’s easy to survive in this rigged game and listen to media funded by the capitalist class telling them to be good flying monkeys punch down because they’re the real victims. They love this system they’re getting poorer but they get to be sadistic, self righteous and superior to others Meanwhile any job dominated by women or minorities is underpaid and requires years of expensive schooling. This system is by design.

Source: 20 years in construction, Dad was Cop

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

There is a certain type of person who is convinced he's honest. Yet, when you ask them an example of him being honest, it's Trump being a total asshole to someone. They want to be able to get away with treating people like shit the way he does. And they want to be free of the politeness that governs society.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They didn't get tricked.

He promised them brutality and he delivered on that promise.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I disagree. The one thing he's good at is conning people with his voice. It's his superpower. It doesn't work on everyone, it works on me sometimes. It's hard to admit, but it's true.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

May i ask what works? Everytime i hear him talk i feel like i'm either listening to the dumbest person alive or to someone who loves himself more than i could ever love a person ever. And both are very off putting to me.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Honestly, I know the answer, but I don't want to give his people ideas on how to do it in other evil people.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a thing a lot of narcissists are good at. I'm curious how the numbers break down with people's resistance to his voice vs general narcissists. I generally assume my immunity comes from my having had a narcissistic father and having bad mental reactions whenever someone starts the narcissist charm. Others are just immune, and then there's folks like you who feel it but can resist it.

And I should clarify it's not magic or anything, the personality disorder just takes advantage of how our social brains are wired, it's not even the only personality disorder to do that.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, I think the people who fall for him have emotional safety issues. He tries to soothe with his voice and say everything is going to be alright. He'll lie his ass off in a general way, so you can give him a pass if it turns out wrong. I think that's why a huge percentage of his base are alcoholics, they just want everything to be okay.

I honestly crave not having to know this shit about our president who is/has:

  • taken us into a shitty, shitty war
  • killed middle school chidlren
  • robbing the country of our history and our money
  • treating immigrants like shit and sometimes killing them
  • treating US citizens like shit and sometimes killing them
  • installing people who are equally evil
  • fucking up our elections so he and his fellow republicans can cheat

I'm tired boss

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Steve Jobs had a similar ability to manipulate. He used it to sell electronics. Trump uses it to bomb brown people, tank an economy, kill all progress, and drive up the costs of said electronics.

It’s not a super power. It’s not even all that rare. It’s just mental illness being celebrated because he’s portrayed as rich. Rich people aren’t crazy. They’re colorful.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just a thought.

Maybe we shouldn't trust our futures to dumbfucks that can get played by the most obvious conman in history 3 times back to back to back.

Maybe every fucking person that isn't a dumbfuck treasonous conservative should show up to vote in 26/28/forever. It's pretty goddamn clear we can't trust conservatives with our nation's wellbeing.

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[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 99 points 3 days ago (24 children)

I don't have any sympathy for a voter dumb enough and conservative enough to vote for Trump three times in a row.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

I think we should have sympathy. Better late than never, and nothing will ever change if people aren't allowed to learn and grow.

MAGA is a community, and a lot of MAGAtards are only there for the community. If progressives aren't willing to accept personal growth, there is no reason for them to grow.

Progressives need to take the high road and welcome the MAGAts who have finally seen the light.

An eye for an eye only creates blindness. Someone needs to stop the cycle.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Did he actually learn anything or is he just going to vote for the next fascist with an R next to their name?

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago (9 children)

How'd that work out with the Confederacy? Did turning the other cheek teach them the error of their ways? Or did it just create a society that makes excuses to justify its racist "heritage"?

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The sentiment of your post is commendable, but I'm skeptical that any magats are "finally seeing the light". They've been fully supportive of bigotry and facsism for a decade now. I'm relieved that support for trump is beginning to dwindle, but it's not because those supporters are now becoming more progressive. Its because their gas prices have gone up. They will blindly continue to vote red in the future.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a question of sympathy. This article is intended to convince people that Trump Voters Are Winnable. We get this every two years as we approach campaign season. And then we get a bunch of Jim Webb types saying they're the only candidates who can win because they are Democrats who appeal to Republicans.

Harris fell for it in 2024, spending her whole final three months touring alongside Liz Cheney. Jeff Flake spoke at the DNC hoping to win over ex-Trumpies. The Lincoln Project promised to flip a bunch of conservatives on behalf of Democrats, to no noticeable effect.

The Winnable Republican is a con that gets run on Democrat primary voters every two years

[–] jamesrandysghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've been hearing this on NPR as well...several pieces all with this outline, about how there are just not enough democrats alone so we need candidates that can appeal to disenfranchised Trump voters.

I'd say I'm surprised that they don't know better than to just play into conservatives hands like this....but trump has taught me a LOT about how little most democrats have in common with the left. They really seam to see the actual left as more of a threat than literal fascists....

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's important to welcome people leaving cults, no matter how dumb it looks that they were in the cult in the first place. The main reason they were there is community, and if they don't find a welcoming community outside, they'll go right back in.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Rehabilitation of people willing to forgo MAGA and the conservatism that fuels it is one thing, but quotes like "He’s a con man, a liar, doesn’t keep his promises" illustrate that some voters haven't had a change of heart about MAGA policies, just on Trump's ability to actually deliver on them.

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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If moron Republicans were capable of learning the Republican party would have ceased to exist after Bush's two illegal wars, torture and crashing the economy.

Or Trump's stealing, raping, crashing the economy and mismanagement of a pandemic and trying TO OVERTHROW THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT.

.....

These people do not learn, they are not serious and trying to "reach them" is a waste of time.

I know in your liberal heart you want to BELIEVE they have learned now and suddenly won't be massive racists assholes... Don't fall for it again...

Our efforts need to be on reaching people that DO NOT VOTE and have abandoned the system completely, we need to get to them that democracy is an active process and you need to engage to keep it going.

I give ZERO shits and have ZERO compassion left for Trump voters.

If they want back into society they need to actually DO SOMETHING about the mess they have caused, not just whine how now suddenly they are sorry...

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Am I wrong for simply not giving a shit?

I don't care if you feel manipulated by Trump. Manipulated by an establishment Democrat or Republican? Sure, I guess I can give people a pass for that. Trump, though?

Nah, you can take your regret and carve it into a bullet before finding some cops to suicide on.

[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

yep. right wing white trash IS the most easily manipulated group of people

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Only the centrists democrats fail at it. It's like failing to convince a rock to sink in water.

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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Far from the first time conservatives have finally figured out after it’s completely too late. They did the same thing with Bush, Iraq and Afghanistan. In five years, people who were rapidly pro Trump will be saying “well, I never really liked him”.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

One day, everyone will have always been against this.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

The worst part is this stupid asshole won't acknowledge that everyone else is right and has been all along - it's "You just happened to be right, but MY special conclusion now, happening now, is the only logical way to have concluded this."

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He was a fucking liar and conman when you voted for him, you dipshit.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

How Hitler and Trump were able to brainwash millions was a mixture of desperation and hatred. People were desperate for more money and better quality of life and these guys promised them those things. They also pushed a narrative that all the problems were caused by marginalized groups. People already hated those groups for some reason and were eager to believe these lies

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 18 points 2 days ago

Congratulations on taking 10+ fucking years to figure that one out, dude.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

......on the one hand, think of what this means. These voters aren't trying to burn the country. They don't want to see people suffer. They've been told their lives suck, and this is the answer to fix it. They're so far removed from reality that they believe in racist teachings. They believe in a prison system designed to eat up as much of the general population as possible. They've been normalized to think of the whole country as us vs them. They routinely watch a news network which has openly admitted in court that they are not a news network. All of this leads to a section of society where these people clutch and grasp at anyone willing to help them, and make life better. It's not an issue of morality. It's an issue of choice. They thought they were making the right choice, as they were being led down a path of conmen, crooks, theives, liars, rapists, and pedophiles.

All of that is on the one hand.

On the OTHER hand......you dumb as hell, boy! Damn you dumb! How you get so dumb?

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[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 12 points 2 days ago

wow. some of you left wing extremists should have told him or something. jeez.

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