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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...proving that deficit hawks and foreign policy doves aren't welcome in Trump's GOP.

Lol! It had literally nothing to do with being a "deficit hawk" or a "foreign policy dove".

It was the Epstein files.

They would have let him say or do anything he wanted, if he'd just shut the fuck up about the Epstein files. But, he helped spearhead the release of those files...so Trump got rid of him with the help of AIPAC.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I think it also speaks to where RW independents are at versus pure MAGA Republicans, and this really matters for the general. This also has some rhymes with LW vs BlueMAGA/Liberal dynamics within the DNC, so its worth reporting on.

If you get out and listen to the hog-whisperers; if you follow media analysis and media critiques of right-wing source (Hasan does this, Majority Report does this, Kyle Kulinski also), you'll know they've been speaking to this division between Republicans/ MAGA and the man-o-sphere/ Tucker hoglets/ clandace owens etc.. for a while now. Basically, the media apparatus that put MAGA and Republicans into power in both '16 and '24 has very much distanced themselves from Trumps foreign policy. Its really across the board in the RW media landscape with few exception, and those few exceptions (like Shapiro) are spiraling downwards, and fast.

What is happening on the right maps to how the DNC/ BlueMAGA set the country up for failure in '24. Its a very similar dynamic in that establishment powers are controlling/ gating who is getting through the primary process to meet donor requirements, but what that ends up decreasing enthusiasm and significantly impacting turnout. Basically, the capitol R republicans (like with capitol D democrats) fundamentally do not understand how their bread gets buttered. And part of that is by design. They'll always see voters as a tool that can be used to serve donors, not the other way around. Its still the same political class controlling both parties, and both parties as political projects are still fully cuckolded to Israel.

That being said, these across the board progressive victories, it demonstrates a path forwards that isn't yet being reflected in the Republican party, and this difference goes back to how the MAGA movement was able to take-over (at least superficially) the agenda of the Republican party in '16, where as the Progressive movement failed to do the same to the D party at the same time. Progressives instead had to spend the previous 10 years building an outside power-movement, whereas the MAGA movement had full institutional power. And what is apparent now, is that R isn't the party of MAGA, its the party of Trump. MAGA is getting pushed outside of the R party and may have to spend a season in the wilderness building outside power.

We shall see.. but I think this leaves Republicans in a far more vulnerable position going into November. I think losing Massie actually hurts them because its saying there is no space for the Anti-Israel, Anti-Pedophile, pro-MAGA voter in the RNC; and RW independents aren't going to miss that.

[–] UkrainianBull@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

The election was rigged

Ed Gallrein received 10,854 “mail in” ballots votes in the last hours of it.

Thomas Massie lost by 10,280 votes.

There is no voting your way out of that level of corruption by a foreign nation.

Trump was behind this.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Felons and pedophiles are more than welcome though.

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It was because he opposed a massive data centre.

The results were bought by the tech industry.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

can't. that state has "anti sore loser" laws, which means he can't run as independent.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Could do the funniest thing and endorse the Democratic candidate.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Don't do it outright, make a show of it just being about the Epstein files. "I asked both candidates for their position on pedophilia by the elites and only one supported exposing and prosecuting pedophiles."

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

so what. the president don’t give a fuck about the law, why should he. or we.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He should anyways on a write in campaign.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lisa Murkowski, won on a write-in campaign in 2010, when a Tea Party Republican (Proto-MAGA) won the primary. She is in the Senate to this day.

2010 was the election in which a bunch of Tea Party candidates beat Republican incumbents in the primary, and then went on to lose in the general, flipping a few seats. Murkowski was one of the few survivors because she was a rare winner of a write-in campaign. I suspect that the MAGA candidates that have won their Primaries, aren't going to fare so well in the General. Trump may have traded a few solid Red seats for Blue seats.

These guys always have a plan, but it's always a bad plan.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not saying he should do it to win, he should do it to split the vote

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

I like that idea. He could drain off enough votes to ensure a Democrat victory.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Spoiler warning!

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately I feel like the writing was on the wall as early as Roy Moore. He's quite literally just an obvious pedophile but because Trump endorsed him he won anyways.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Who owns the voting machines? Who audits the software? How are votes tabulated?

[–] aproposnix@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Or it means that Kentuckians are dumb AF.