To be fair, betting on the apathy and cowardice of the US voter base is a pretty safe bet, and a bet that's served him well so far.
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Apathy is a poor turn of phrase for a fascist takeover.
The problem in the US isn't apathy. ICE doesn't seem apathetic. The military doesn't seem apathetic. Silicon Valley doesn't seem apathetic. Wall Street doesn't seem apathetic. The billionaire class is engaged and has financed an enormous army of brownshirts to flatten dissent.
Meanwhile, people are fighting and dying on the streets. Parades of people march in opposition. Blossoming networks of activists inform on and undermine the state. Lone wolves even take pot shots at the President.
There's apathy and complicity in the senior leadership of the opposition. But they're a fraction of a fraction of the agents involved in the conflict.
So many people (or bots, but especially on reddit) get their panties in a bunch when you say the DNC is not your friend. They are complicit. There are a handful of politicians that caucus with Dems that I really believe are fighting for the little guy, but the party as a whole loves the power/wealth the ruling class is gaining through the fascist takeover.
Eh, I dunno. I don't think the DNC is my "friend", but I also recognize that the harm caused by democrats is a paltry fraction of that caused by republicans, and I do find it offensive when people equate them, its absolutely lying and I absolutely consider it harmful.
I may be against the existence of the state, but I can also recognize that one choice gets way more people hurt and killed that I don't want to see hurt or killed.
Just because I recognize that the US is a poor excuse for a democracy doesn't mean I won't try and make use of the currently available mechanisms to prevent additional people from being hurt and/or killed. I'm not into the accelerationist bullshit.
I think part of the problem is that many of the people who complain about democrats absolutely will call them fully equal to republicans, which just makes them seem like an idiot that isnt worth listening to because of how separated from reality those comments are.
As bad as in certain situations? Sure. Overall? LOL no.
But just as some people will complain that I just wrote "whole ass paragraphs", nuance doesn't often play well on social media (including the fediverse) compared to "strong stances against!!!" whatever thing, which just furthers the divide rather than expanding the further left.
Just my opinion of course.
The Dems (neolibs) want the 1990s. They don't want an oligarchy, and they're (mostly) not complicit, with a few exceptions.
The Dems, as a whole, have never taken the kind of power that Trump has. Partly because it's damaging to the country, and partly because it's blatantly illegal.
The Dems also haven't had 8 years of cutting internal opposition in primaries. In fact, after the whole Bernie/Hillary thing the Dems went in the opposite direction of that. That's what you all wanted.
You wanted the party to have less control. The party now has less control, and you're all :shocked Pikachu: that they're not able to whip every single member in line.
(Progressives want to fix problems, not just return us to the 1990s. We can do better.)
The article also speculates that Trump's surrender in Iran could be very bad for Israel, thanks to Iran's control of the Straight of Hormuz:
In a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday, Trump reportedly explained that the United States was negotiating a “letter of intent” with Iran that would “formally end the war and launch a 30-day period of negotiations” on Iran’s nuclear program and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. The purpose and effect of such an agreement should be clear: The United States is walking away from the crisis.
According to one U.S. official, Netanyahu’s “hair was on fire” after the call with Trump—for good reason. The Iran war may end up as the single most devastating blow to Israel’s security in its brief history. On the present trajectory, Iran will emerge from the conflict many times stronger and more influential than it was before the war. It will exercise leverage with dozens of the richest nations in the world, all of which will have an acute interest in keeping Iran happy. They will be unlikely to take Israel’s side in any conflict that it has with Tehran or with its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza, because Iran will have the means to punish them if they do. Israel will emerge more isolated than it has been at any time in its history—and not least from its only reliable protector, the United States. When Trump turns his back on Israel, as he must do to implement this policy, MAGA will gladly follow. The bipartisan anti-Israel consensus in the United States will grow and harden.
Good. Anything that hurts Israel, gives Palestinian citizens another day to breathe and live.
will grow and harden

From what I remember about dominionism, they need isreal to exist again so that it can be destroyed. I wonder if this is the rug pull
According to one U.S. official, Netanyahu’s “hair was on fire” after the call with Trump—for good reason. The Iran war may end up as the single most devastating blow to Israel’s security in its brief history
Hahahaha.
remembers Bibi started all this
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Trump's Endgame is always a test of just how stupid America can be ... and that is the key to his success - the near bottomless pit of American idiocy
We still want the epstien files you fat pedo. Losing a war won't make anyone forget.
Without Americans noticing the magnitude of this defeat?
Oh… no shit. He won that metal. Imagine advancing the decline of the world’s leading empire by decades, if not centuries. Imagine all the indoctrinated, enslaved, and coerced souls who gave their blood, sweat, and tears to put the US where it was. The magnitude of the defeat is staggering. Asking an American for a status report would be like asking a tribe of moles burrowed in Mt. Everest how a recent snowstorm changed the topology of the mountain. They don’t fucking know. They can tell you the cost of oil has gone up, though.
Let's be real, there's no way the collapse of pax Americana was going to take centuries
His endgame is to loot what he can and destroy the rest.
Trump is like 100 years old. There is no endgame but dying pretty soon, there is only the mental disorder of some kind of horder syndrom, accumulating resources he does not really need for no good reason.
I disagree. Whilst he does have mental issues, it has more to do with enriching the people who have the power to protect him another 4 years so he can avoid jail, forcibly leave a mark (he's insecure) and rile people up, as a backup plan so he can claim he can't be kicked out because it's war time
Money isn't a hoarding disease at this point, it's a way to avoid accountability
His end game is to make a lot of money. And he's doing that.
He doesn't care what happens to the poor in either country
He will have to removed by force to get him out of the White House in 28.
Why he wants that "ballroom " so bad.
Assuming the ballroom gets completed before inauguration '29, I'm fine with Trump staying in it for the rest of his life, as long as all entrances and exits are sealed, and no food or water enters.
Bunkers only protect against foreign bombs. Local residents have construction equipment and concrete saws.
Or alternatively even more concrete. Could always just lock em in and then see what's left in a couple years when someone remembers.
He can't leave situation because Israel won't let him
There will never be a deal

Whatever, just do it. Cut our losses and end that shitshow.
The problem it's not going to end the problems for a long time because Iran will have every reason to not cooperate even with beneficial terms. The USA showed its hand at being managed by a 6 year old who was only concerned about his perception.
Yup, everyone who wasn't a moron knew it was dumb as fuck to start shit to begin with, but all we can do if we keep at it is make things worse.
Drump will go down as one of the worst presidents in US history.
He was 45 and 47, so he'll go down as the two worst presidents in US history
That's quite the understatement. He's actively sabotaging the entire planet.
He's already entrenched in last place, according to historians, who generally like to wait at least a decade before making these judgemental. With Trump, they don't need the waiting period, or even for his term to end. He is already OBJECTIVELY the worst president in history. All he's going to do now is set a new record for how bad a president can be.
Common estimates are that he’s made $4B off the presidency, he got the Supreme Court to decide that any “official” act by him is legal, and sued his own justice department for $10B to orchestrate a “settlement” with a legally binding agreement to never charge him with anything.
He’s ready to retire now
Edit: oh, we’re only talking Iran? At some point Iran will propose everything they want and hype it online as trumps plan so he can say “winning!”
He has no endgame. He's planning to remain in power until he nom-noms his last Big Mac, whether that's tomorrow or 10 years from now. Unless he goes very soon, he's also going to set things up for Junior to assume power. All it will take is a very loose interpretation of the Insurrection Act.
Even if America surrenders and walks away from the Iran conflict with its tail between its legs, Donny and his cult will still claim total victory, and there is a possibility that his approval may actually get a bump from this. Just in time to steal/cancel the midterms and start anew war with Cuba, oh and don’t think he’s forgotten about Greenland…
He has no end game. Narcissists never do, because they aren't losing, because they can't, not in their own brains anyway.
He also hopes to slip away without us noticing the tens of billions of dollars he is siphoning off.
That's fine. Now sieze his assets and force him into a nursing home.
But he won the FIFA peace price...
I honestly deeply despise articles like this. Articles like this are how we get trapped in forever wars. Fuck the Iran War. I didn't want it to start, and I don't want it to continue. But the main reason we get caught in forever wars is that the media lampoons any president that actually does the wise thing and ends the doomed conflict. They portray them as a coward or demonize them for letting troops' deaths go to waste.
He'll surrender, and will cause a lot of talking for approximately a couple of days. More than enough to keep you all from talking about the Trump-Epstein files until he finds something else to do so you keep your attention from the fact that HE RAPED KIDS.
You need to kill that cunt, and make it fast. November is not gonna be your saving grace, November is gonna be the confirmation of what we already know: He and his goons can do whatever the hell they want and there's nobody to stop him.
Surrender to Iran. Distract with deposing Cuba.