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[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Weird that AIPAC isn't mentioned at all in the comments.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

You have a party that is desperate to go back to a past utopia that never existed and another that is determined to maintain a status quo that absolutely failed.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

Democrats win by failing. For their corporate bankrollers.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

What failure? They've done their job perfectly as controlled opposition. The real failure is people expecting anything else from them.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I'm tired of having the same discussion over and over again with neo-liberals that they aren't anywhere near left and their mandates of "less harm" or "lesser of two evils" doesn't work anymore. So they have no actual platform or real plans for anything substantial that would be secured. Letting things float on in good faith.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 minutes ago

Preach. I'm pretty far left and I am constantly being spammed for money by Dem fundraising. I tell them they can pry it out of my cold dead fingers, or they can come up with a platform better than, "well at least we aren't trump."

[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Lesser of two evils is just for general elections where you only have two choices and you need to slow the rise of fascism.

Progressives need to get on with primarying the fuck out of establishment Democrats. When you have a progressive running against a fascist in the general, polls have shown that the progressive ideas will win....if the voters are focused on policy rather than succumbing to emotional manipulation.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

One thing that really sucks about today's world is that everything seems too big to fail.

Shitty car dealers? Sorry can't remove them. Shitty banks? Sorry too powerful. Shitty cable? Sorry it's the only option. Shitty cellular? Sorry only service. Shitty political party? Sorry other option is worse.

Capitalism has a way of squeezing everything into a few hands where we are basically fucked once it reaches the end stage.

The problem is that during the run up you seem to get better service / value as it's fighting for the top spot, but once there you are totally fucked.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Democratic socialista need to change their name to the labor party and start championing Bernie's message of the past 40 years. Appealing to people on the right and left

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 8 points 10 hours ago

This is exactly the scenario that the Democratic party is working so hard to quash.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Whoa... Big news. They're determined about something.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 52 points 17 hours ago

Failure? Pretty sure the oligarchy is getting exactly what they want.

[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 28 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The Democrats are a capital party just like the Republicans. We do not have a labor party in the US. Fascists and racists have their Republican Party, but liberals only have the lesser evil. There is no loyalty. We need a third party to represent labor. The two party/winner take all system is a fucking joke.

The lesser evil of fascism is still fascism. Just with a pride flag in June.

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 13 points 14 hours ago

There are third parties, they’ve even spoiled some elections. I think you mean a VIABLE third party.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 10 hours ago

At this point I assume more malicious intent than incompetence.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 33 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They've been able to effectively convince the k-hive that it wasn't their failure; that it was the failure of voters. Those convinced of this narrative are the biggest threat to being able to stop fascism using electoral or other tools.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 12 points 17 hours ago

For decades, we've always heard from them it's someone else's fault when we fail.

[–] thlibos@thelemmy.club 4 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Thankfully she has zero chance of getting the nomination...I'm terrified it's going to be Buttgieg

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I think AOC has a better chance than he does.

Don't worry. It'll actually be newsome.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Buttigeig is an empty suit you pour money into then it stands up and walks around. His primary claim to fame was sabotaging Bernie in 2020. And apparently being an "excellent" transportation secretary (you know, while fucking over unions under biden) I guess. I'm not saying they aren't a threat but they're so far up Ezra Kleins ass I don't see how they can pretend they aren't anything but a thirdway walking cat-turd.

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 1 points 4 hours ago

The DNC definitely fucked Bernie over, but rolling over and letting them get away with it again made me lose all respect for him.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

So they're the perfect depiction of Americans.

Fucking retards dragging the whole planet down the shitter. All of you.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

As a European trying to work out the policy differences between Republicans and Democrats, they don't seem to be significant. Mainly how elements are interpreted /expressed during campaigns or counter campaigns.

Question for our American cousins: Is this because it's (overall) what the US population wants to buy into with votes or would a less Ultracapitalism stance not have enough interest?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

If a less capitalist party magically appeared with the capital to compete it would sweep the democrats and republicans out of office. The economic grind for no apparent gain is consistently one of the top issues in elections. It just turns out that 100 million dollars of ads can absolutely convince people that this year the politicians will actually help them.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It is incredibly difficult if not impossible to start a new party. You need grassroots campaigns in every state and district just to even get on the ballot. It’s intentionally hard to form a new party because the constitution was designed in such a way to discourage group think and parties.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

I see them as CDU vs AfD or PP vs Vox.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago
[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

This is why getting a third party Going and Voted is important.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Are people still pretending they don't understand it was written by a single freelancer?

That the people now running the DNC, didn't run it during 2024?

Because I legitimately don't understand how anyone who only knew those two facts, would still be blaming the people running the DNC since 2025 for what this report says was done wrong in 2024...

So it seems like the safe assumption, is people don't understand at least one of those two things. Most likely both.

Especially when they repeat "Democrats won't learn their lesson" literally half a term deep into the DNCs pivot away from neoliberalism. To think they haven't learned the lesson yet, just means that person hasn't paid attention since Biden lost the election.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

It's still bad that the most generous interpretation is the DNC is being fleeced by incompetent freelancers.

It also implies that the DNC has little interest in understanding why they lost. No mention of Biden's age, even if to say it had no effect. No mention of Gaza, even if to say it had no effect.

If they have a better post-mordem, that does explore these topics I'd love to see it.

It makes it seem like they weren't that serious about beating Trump if they're still willing to hire incompetent people that avoid tough analysis.

Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are still the House and Senate leader for the dems. Jefferies is Pelosi's handpicked successor.

What part of the leadership do you believe has changed? What are their names?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

It also implies that the DNC has little interest in understanding why they lost

Th voting members knew why they lost immediately, that's why they elected Marin instead of another neoliberal....

What part of the leadership do you believe has changed?

The chair is a dictator and can do whatever they want with zero accountability...

So when the chair changes, it's like a new president, they can set their "admin" however they want.

2 years ago they elected Ken Martin, who spent a decade running Minnesota and turned it from purple to one of the most progressive politicians of any state.

It's honestly not hard to look into him, but unless you understand the basics of the DNC (what I've said here is enough) it doesn't seem like a huge change.

But people have fought 30 years (arguably 50) trying to get us to where we are now.

It's not done, but billionaires want us to give up and check out already

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It's this anticipatory self‑sabotage that always makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy. The reality is that the DNC has changed. While it's not perfect, it's far from where it was at. Hell the run in TN-7 shows that. Republicans designed the district to be R+22 and came up in that election as R+9. Democrats were able to get a ground game going under the nose of the Republicans.

What happens is that people don't see ENOUGH change and just go full tilt doomer. Nothing changes overnight. People need to get over themselves. If Democrats do what they did for the special election in Tennessee for at least ten years straight, then Republicans are doomed. But there's this propensity that if it doesn't happen in the next twenty-four hours then it'll never happen.

I really strongly encourage Democrats to give up on the doomer act here. Change is difficult, actual change takes time.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

It’s this anticipatory self‑sabotage that always makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy

It's the billionaires desperately wanting to depress Dem primary turnout...

If they can get someone like Newsom to the general, he would name the new DNC chair if elected.

And neoliberals would get the party back. We can't afford to let that happen, so the most important thing is getting people to vote in the Dem primary

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Yeah i seriously see this looking from the outside. There's a whole gradient of nuance between the extremes of "It's over, the billionaire backed DNC are Republicans just with nice words, nothing will ever change" and "We did it, it's over for Trump, MAGA and the Republicans, Democrats have it in the bag, everything will be okay without any further action from us". You can be optimistic or skeptical about whether change for the better can happen, but you don't have to be completely nihilist nor complacent.

Keep going, keep envisioning what progress you want to see for the future, what changes and prosecution you want to see to prevent the resurgence of MAGA, and work towards that.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Why start now?