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A bill making its way through the North Carolina Legislature states it would be permissible for a person to use deadly force on a woman they believe is seeking an abortion, something Democrats have branded as "wildly extreme."

The legislation, now only backed by Republican State Representative Keith Kidwell, would classify abortion as first-degree murder and open up the right of another person to defend the life of the unborn baby as they see fit.

"Any person has the right to defend his or her own life or the life of another person, even by the use of deadly force if necessary, from willful destruction by another person," the bill reads. "The State has an interest and a duty to defend innocent persons from willful destruction of their lives and to punish those who take the lives of persons, born or unborn, who have not committed any crime punishable by death."

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/republican-bill-deadly-force-stop-abortions-north-carolina-12005136

Nothing says being pro-unborn-child like murdering the mother while she's pregnant. That'd really protect the fetus.

Who am I kidding? It's really a cover hoping that someone will storm in and kill the doctors.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago

The only moral abortion is the one that they perform

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Is it cool if we stop posting shit from Newsweek?

Yes, the bill is real, but I almost completely disregarded this as ragebait, which it likely still is on OPs part.

Newsweek is not news, it is a notoriously inaccurate tabloid.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

wildly extreme

Uhhh. I mean. They're not wrong per se... 😅

He's advocating murdering pregnant women; wildly extreme doesnt quite seem to cover it

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Interesting, I don't know that I've ever seen it typed before! Thank you! ☺️

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

It's "wildly extreme" in the same way that the East India Company "cared about profit"

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How about a bill urging deadly force for rapists? Deadly force for congressional insider trading? Deadly force for using deadly force without an act of congress? Deadly force for fraud? Deadly force for accepting "gifts" while in office? Deadly force for ignoring congressional subpoenas? Deadly force for using the justice dept to harass rape victims? Deadly force for using office to make billions? Deadly force for hiring your own kids and placing them in office?

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We're going to MURDER PREGNANT WOMEN to Save Unborn Babies!

-Republicans LITERALLY!

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

Seems like getting surgically sterilized is an actual form of self-defense. I'm sure they'll make up some bullshit excuse to try and stop that too, but point stands.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Text of the bill:

Subject to approval by a majority of voters during the 2026 general election, adds new Section 39 to Article I of the North Carolina Constitution as follows. Specifies that human life begins at fertilization. Recognizes a new human life as an individual person, entitled to the protection of the laws of this State from the moment of fertilization until the moment of natural death. Holds persons willfully seeking to destroy the life of another, at any stage of life, or who succeeds in doing so, accountable for first-degree murder, or attempted murder. Specifies that any person has the right to defend the life of themselves or another, even by use of deadly force if necessary, from willful destruction by another person. Specifies that the State has an  interest and a duty to defend innocent persons from willful destruction of their lives and to punish those who take the lives of persons, born or unborn, who have not committed any crime punishable by death. If approved, effective January 1, 2027.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Holds persons willfully seeking to destroy the life of another, at any stage of life, or who succeeds in doing so, accountable for first-degree murder, or attempted murder.

That's the part where I see them giving leeway to dumbfucks to just got shoot up abortion clinics. Its not really about killing the women (through they'd let that go by too) its about killing the doctors.

*Edit: its also about killing the mom who takes her raped daughter across state lines to get an abortion elsewhere

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 3 points 3 months ago

Oh, I hadn't considered trying to take out the docs (my initial read was focused on the mothers). That's an especially bad feel.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I think NC Republicans are willfully trying to destroy their own citizens, especially women.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What idiotic wording. So if I see some asshole shooting a woman who they believe is having an abortion, I guess I can then legally kill him too since “any person has the right to defend the life of themselves or another, even by use of deadly force if necessary, from willful destruction by another person.”

Oh no, then someone can kill me for the same reason.. and so on.

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

So "pro life" they'll kill you over it.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

The only psycho backing this bill is Keith Kidwell who represents the tiny coastal district 79.

https://www.ncleg.gov/Members/Biography/H/749

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about lethal force to protect women who are seeking out medical services from places such as Planned Parenthood? These anti-choice motherfuckers need to fuck all the way off.

[–] scops@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If someone attempts to use lethal force against a pregnant woman who is seeking an abortion, then it would stand to reason that that person is threatening the life of the fetus and can thus be stopped by the pregnant woman or a bystander with lethal force

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

That was my thought as well. Arms race with abortion protesters. Hooray!

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

The enemy must be protected, lest the enemy of that enemy be threatened by the enemy.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Let's kill the mothers, that'll save the children.

Makes perfect sense.

[–] lohky@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I asked the "Ask Conservatives" subreddit if they thought murdering a doctor about yo perform an abortion would be a just killing. I guess I have my answer.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

use deady force on a woman to stop an abortion

Do... Eh. Do these people understand how life works, and that ending the mothers life would surely stop the abortion, but also kill the fetus? Like, do I need to explain this?

Talking about throwing out the baby with the bathwater

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They do understand killing the mother kills the fetus too right?

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 3 points 3 months ago

Understanding is too big of a word for MAGA.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You remember how they were looking up taking braindead women and using their bodies as human incubators? Seems kinda related

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I hope that every moderate politician across the state loudly proclaims this is obvious evidence that the GOP's core value is not protecting life but punishing "promiscuous" women who dare to have sex for any reason other than procreation.

This is the same party that is lamenting the country's birth rate, by the way. They aren't even pretending to care about women any more.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

So isn't that also an abortion?

[–] 8j1obzlb@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Those democrats and their “branding” JFC

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