I'll gladly vote for the person saying progressive things even if it's only lip service when the alternative is someone who "reluctantly" sides with MAGA 100% of the time. Maybe eventually someone who actually believes those progressive things will get in. It's a terrible system that should be burned down and rebuilt with 21st century ideas, but until that happens we work with what we have.
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You elect enough people saying something eventually one of them is going to believe it. It's how the republicans ended up where they are now.
Okay, let's say he's an opportunistic neo-nazi... why is he not a Republican?
Ask John Fetterman...
Not familiar with him (I'm not American), but skimming his Wikipedia article, he strikes me like more of a slightly confused and conservative-leaning Democrat than a neo-nazi.
He's got an excuse, his brain exploded. Seriously, that's why he gets any grace at all. If he was just acting like this on his own, Dems would be screaming 1000x louder. Instead, its just a matter of "bless his heart." At least he isn't Dr. Oz.
He won't survive his next primary.
He was enacting conservative policies well before the stroke. We were just told to ignore it in threads much like this one because he talked progressive.
A lot of folks here are too young to remember this, but back in my day there was a democrat senator from Pennsylvania called John Fetterman. When he ran for this position, he was hailed as a new kind of progressive. Gave off serious working class vibes, wouldn't wear a suit, and ran a really progressive ticket. He had a bit of an iffy past, involving threatening a black jogger with a shotgun, and fighting to gentrify the town of Braddock when he was mayor there. And of course, he had parents who were business owners who bought his political career for him. But we were told to ignore this, because he was saying a lot of progressive stuff now, and because the person he was running against was ostensibly worse (a tv doctor I think).
Anyway, he got elected, and the unimaginable happened: the guy who acted conservatively in the past, was acting conservatively in the present too! Even though he'd said he'd changed his tune and was a progressive now, he was supporting conservative legislation, and even enthousiastically supporting the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza (although it's hard to find a democrat who doesn't).
The Plattner situation reminds me of this. Rich parents, iffy past (3 tours of joining the illegal invasion of Iraq, and one in afghanistan, mercenary after, an actual, honest to god, I'm not making this up, nazi tattoo on his chest), and iffy present (he's calling people who participated in the war crimes committed in Fallujah[1] "war heroes" in campaign interviews). It'd be kind of cool if we could learn from history instead of repeat it.
Inb4 the greybeards bring up Obama and his progressive campaign.
[1] they besieged the entire city and cut off its water and electricity supply. This is a war crime. Imagine being an elderly or disabled person who cannot leave the city -- these are the kinds of people targeted by this attack. This is the kind of stuff Israel does in Gaza that makes legal scholars say that they're committing a genocide. Anyway, the folks that did this are war heroes, apparently.
Yeah, I hear ya, I really do, but here's the thing - he's still on the books as a Democrat, so if everything else lines up, he makes it so the Dems control the Senate, even if he isn't playing along. If the count is close enough, with two DINOs (Fetterman), it might mean they can't win some votes, but as the Majority Party, they still control the legislative schedule, and most importantly they control committees, including investigative and oversight committees with subpoena and arrest powers.
Any Dem legislation isn't going to go anywhere anyway, because Trump will never sign it, so the real job over the next 2 years will be investigating people, getting things on the record, impeaching where possible, etc., and cranking up the outrage for 2028. In a situation like that, DINOs still have a big impact, just by keeping the majority control out of MAGA hands.
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