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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

They are, in every area except infrastructure, range, and (in the US) affordable variety.

We now have 2 cars that use electricity to a varying degree (hybrid/phev) and it’s awesome. The fuel savings is immediate and obvious.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Horses are better than cars ! A horse is a vehicle and a pet at the same time !!

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And other things too, depending on jurisdiction!

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 46 minutes ago

Hey, when a horse goes lame?

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They say this whilst trying their best to make EVs the printers of the car industry. Update? The car stops and bricks itself for the duration of it. Want basic features? You have to pay a monthly subscription for the car you already payed for. Need it repaired? Have to bring it to a dealership with criminal prices because every part is serialized and they have you by the balls. Need a new battery after it kicks the bucket in 4-5 years? Expect to pay $10-20k for a new one. Oh and of course the center terminal/tablet is now crucial for the cars function, so anytime that malfunction it bricks itself again. Oh and it will always track and spy on you with GPS and onboard cameras and microphones.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

I don't have any of that with my EV, certainly no subscription stuff, nor overcharging for service, because a service is significantly easier

Not to any degree different from in ICE vehicle

You're just spouting shit

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

I agree but realistically the only electric car you're getting without any of that is a Lunar Rover.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when VW had hundreds of slaves in Brazil until like a year after I was born? That was pretty wild.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

For those of you who are not as intimately familiar with potoooooooo's birthdate as I am: they had slaves until 1986

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

People aren't going to realize EV's are better until the can actually afford one.

Also, maybe one day America will get their heads out of their ass and realize that public transportation is better EV's.

[–] manuremy@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

I don't see EVs ever becoming good for everywhere. Here it usually gets as low as -20 to -45 degrees in Celcius during winter so you'd need a heated garage at your home and another at your workplace to have an EV work well, or hell, even start. With an older car, you can just take the battery indoors for the night and pop it back in the morning and be on your way. And having a heated garage (and the cost of building EV's battery, building the car, shipping it) is already worse for the environment, so no, it will never work here.

Just developt the gas (gas as in gas, not benzin or diesel) and use them here, EV's where it's warmer all year around.

And no, fuck them Chinese spyware cars. And other spyware cars. Put the cameras up your ass.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 33 minutes ago

Didn't they just charge a car in 12 minutes frozen to -20C? Soon this will be a non-issue. The real road block will be stopping these companies from turning electric cars into data-mining, subscription model machines. Laws will need to be passed posthaste.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 1 points 27 minutes ago

It gets to -35C where I live during winter. I have an unheated garage and park outside while at work, I have an EV and definitely see a drop in range but it isn't large. I can still drive around 300 km on a fully charged battery while using heat.

I can get more range by being more sparing with my heat, if I just use my heated seats and steering wheel I can keep the heat on less and get about 50 extra kms. My trips are pretty short so a fully changed battery lasts me 3 weeks during summer and 2.5 weeks during during winter.

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

I mean battery tech is always improving, I don't see -45C as big of a roadblock as you make it out to be. There are already battery chemistries that work well at those temps. They just have to be scaled up and made cost effective.

To me this feels like scoffing at the first car because a horse had a higher top speed.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I can understand people sticking with horses more than I can understand sticking with ICE cars. A horse is an animal with a personality, you might feel like it's like losing a friend.

But why do people have so much sentimentality over having cars that have tailpipes?

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

I'm extremely attached to my motorbike

It's different to a car, because a bike becomes an extension of your body, you have to be in harmony with the machine

Cars are just cars

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

I could swap my ice car for electric and I'd be fine and it wouldn't bother me, but motorcycle engines actually do have personalities based on engine layout, cooling system, fueling methods (efi vs. carbs), transms etc, that I could never give up bikes for electric alternatives (also electric motorcycle makes literally zero sense if electric bicycle exists)

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I have an electric bike for short trips but do enjoy driving my 6 speed car, and it's 12 years old, paid off for 7 of those years. I cannot imagine it's better to get another car and get rid of mine.

Can't imagine I am unusual. It's just a really big fleet and will take time to change.

And yeah this is probably my last but I will miss the vroom vroom and shifting the car myself.

[–] Lectral@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for a used EV. I've never bought a new vehicle and have no desire to.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

I wanted a used one, but I had to buy new

There are no second-hand models of my car for sale

People buy them, and then they keep them!

There wasn't a single one available second-hand in my state, and the backorders meant that had to wait three months for it to be built and shipped

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

It's not really a matter of realizing what's better. It's about what is cheaper.

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They should've thought about before they puffed metric tonnes of NOx into our lungs.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 2 hours ago

They did. They all thought about it. But the decision was none of them. Everyone is replaceable. The profit demon can replace the president the lawyers the product.. they all just do their part in a monstrous soulless beast of consumption and yeah, it does not think. It just rips nature apart slowly for points and longs for when we all die as the profane slaughter race winner is crowned

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