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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 64 points 3 months ago

George Santos is probably one of the least intimidating pieces of shit I know of. Threats without gravitas is nothing more than comedy.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is why I record all my phone calls.

[–] plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.zip 50 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As we were talking, I asked if I could record the call. He said no. I was in front of a keyboard, though, furiously jotting down every word.

Depends on the jurisdiction if you need two-party consent to record.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Who cares, do it anyway. They lie and cheat, so can we.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The punishment for recording will be insignificant compared to the punishment for the person you recorded. That is unless illegal recordings are inadmissible in court.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact, law enforcement is bound by the fourth amendment against performing illegal searches or seizures. Any evidence gained from "the fruit of the poisonous tree" is generally inadmissible unless they can prove they could have found it through other legal means. This in no way prevents them from using evidence gained through illegal means and provided to them outside of direct law enforcement action!

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As an aside, the fruit from the poisoned tree has long been admitted into evidence through several pathways. One such end run is called parallel construction, they get illegal information, then find a legal way they can use it in court.

But they often don't have to, long long ago the scotus said the evidence could be admitted if the police thought they were following the law. So they can plead stupid.

Nevermind the requirements that warrants, if they even bother with them, specify what they are looking for, before the 80s if they were looking for guns but found drugs that were not listed on the warrant, it was inadmissible, but now anything they find they can use.

If you are rich and have a lot of money you might be able to fight some of that, but for almost everyone, you are fucked.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse... unless you are the law... then you can be as ignorant of the law as you want!"

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think all these big tech companies with their telemetry and ~~adware~~ spyware are following those laws, so why should we?

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You have millions of dollars to try fighting the case? They do.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

You have a point, and I hate it!

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Worth noting that hand written/typed notes are admissible in court. It can be handy for he-said-she-said situations, because the party with the notes nearly always wins when the other party can’t back up their side.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 3 months ago

Easy, have your AI transcription agent be a third party that can consent so you have a majority! (/s... sorta)

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Some states (California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington) have two-party consent laws, making it illegal to record a conversation without consent from all parties in the recording. At the very least, a recording w/o consent would be inadmissible in court, but it could also land you in prison (up to 5 years in Maryland and Massachusetts).

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What if you simply announce that you are recording and remind them they have the option to hang up if they don’t like it

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

That's the legal method to go about it, yes. So long as you make clear indication first that you're recording, its all on the other end to make the choice to continue.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Answer every call with "calls may be recorded for quality assistance purposes". They can hang up.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They have had cases of people recording the police that dropped the evidence after the police lied about that interaction to convict them, and the people catching the police in a lie by recording get charged with that felony charge.

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Recording police is different and usually considered protected by the first amendment as long as it is an on-duty officer and you are lawfully present in a public space.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

It's protected until it isn't. There are a great many examples of this happening. All quite rage inducing I can assure you, and going back decades.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

Santos is now offering 55% off his Cameo videos, meaning for $150, he will record himself saying just about anything.

I wonder if you could pay him $150 to admit he threatened a reporter.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a sad, pathetic man. He's like Trump: all lies and boasts and threats. Why not build something, do some good in the world...

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Santos is now offering 55% off his Cameo videos, meaning for $150, he will record himself saying just about anything.

Really tempting to have him do some 'Trump lost in 2020' videos.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 3 months ago

I expect him to just take the money and send audio of him gargling insteas5

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’d love to know who’s willing to lift a gun for this piece of shit.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

😂 he thinks he’s important enough to defend. Yeah nobody gives a shit about Santos lol.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

Our culture pushes narcissistic psychopaths and sociopaths into positions of power

https://youtu.be/TB0k7wBzXPY

Greed and will to power. Who’s gonna stop them? Not shareholders.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So a person or persons, who may or may not be, allegedly, George Santos, threatened him with violence.

But Santos appears to be, in my opinion, a pathological liar.

So did he technically, allegedly, threaten anyone really?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, he threatened someone. Always take threats seriously, no matter how much of a liar they are. Better to be proven wrong and alive.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

When the reporter texted Santos' publicly-known number while on the call, it was received by the alleged Santos who then became irate and unhinged. Coincidence?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

That's some "Nobody seriously thinks Fox News is news" defense.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

George Santos is human feces? Whaaaat? I'm shocked.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

George Santos? Is that the guy who built the empire state building by himself with no tools?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

In a cave. With a box of scraps.

A piglet like George Santos believing he's intimidating is the funniest shit I've read all week.

[–] Cavemanfreak@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

I thought you wrote George Soros first, and was a bit confused...

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Well right back to prison for Santos until trump issues another pardon.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago

I mean, hey. I'd rather have a gun in my face than a bullet in my face. 🤷‍♂️