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[–] db2@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I call it least worst politics. We really really need to stop doing that.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 months ago

It's why in the US, voting is the minimum we should be doing. Hence why I mentioned crabby letters and protests. More, up to and including general strikes and civil war once the discontent is severe enough and much of the population has little left to lose.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

Which can be done via elections if their mechanisms are improved, such as proportional representation or ranked choice. But this system was made to keep the system stable while slavers were in power.

It's going to take more than mere elections to change that.

Hence, crabby letters and protests. General strikes if you can organize them. Civil war likely once the ownership class turns to massacres to preserve their wealth and power.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Or someone who will have you arrested vs merely ignore you.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Or kill your friends in a death camp

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Versus simply letting your friends go homeless to die on the street because they couldn't afford their basic necessities.

Either way, innocent people are dying because the system continues unabated.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I don't understand people who would lay down their vote in some kind of "protest". It's like saying "It'll be cloudy with a high probability of rain. Welp, I'm bringing only my swimsuit made of paper." Actively not participating and thus allowing further harm. Such bullshit.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea. Engaging within the electoralist system under capitalism is always going to be a choice of "be oppressed with a smile" or "be oppressed with an iron fist"

Either way you're still being oppressed so maybe we should be focusing our efforts on stopping the oppression instead of picking the best oppressor.

Vote or don't, I really don't give a shit. It makes little difference. What I care about is how people are trying to organize their local communities to engage in mutual aid or defense that actually materially helps those in said communities.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

I find voting worthwhile primarily because it's a good excuse to pay closer attention and educate yourself about what's happening, especially in local politics. But I agree that political change will require extra-electoral tactics.

[–] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 15 points 3 months ago

You vote your heart in the primaries. In the actual election, you vote against the worst.

At least, until we get ranked choice voting or something better than the two-party system we have now.

[–] NovaSel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This practice already exists; it's called Tactical Voting and it's the reaso why winner-take-all systems tend towards two parties in the first place

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s one of the things that I really don’t understand about the way Americans experience their elections.

Navigating a FPTP system necessitates a large measure of strategizing. You’ll almost never get to vote for the candidate you really want. But, instead of that half of them are like “THIS PARTY IS MY ENTIRE POLITICAL IDENTITY NOW”. And the other half is like “I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THE LESSER EVIL”.

And, dear listeners, the sum total of those two attitudes is that a lot of otherwise politically engaged people just effectively don’t participate in the political process at all, either through virtuous abstention or through abdication to the party leadership.

Of course, that’s all moot now since you’re effectively a fascist dictatorship.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I am BEGGING people, to please, vote for the damn democrat before the GOP starts publicly executing transpeople.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is what I tried to tell people in the last election who refused to vote at all.

But some people decided that it was completely impossible to vote for Kamala, even if they hated Trump, and would either refuse to vote at all or vote for a third party, both of which benefitted Trump.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

I know I'll get downvoted for this, but the real reason people didn't vote for Kamala was because she was a woman.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

You can't evolve unless the marginally-better candidate gets in. In a binary race, you choose the least-worse or you accept the worst.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

The only reason not to vote is, if you literally have zero clue about politics and life. Better not to vote, then voting misinformed.

[–] EmptyAsparagus@piefed.social 0 points 3 months ago

the dems have not proven to be a valid counter weight. they're financed by the same billionaire cabal, so they won't enact real change as is. there is some movement, but the people holding on to power are still fighting for their power (and mostly nothing else but money)

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

its hilarious how libs preach lesser evilism when it comes to voting but then dunk on "campists" when it comes to geopolitics

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

That's how the system is built, and intentionally so. It's going to take pressure to change the system so that it isn't two-party.

We have to suffer the consequences of these elections whether or not we voted in them, or for whom.

And the biggest pushes by campaign propaganda machines in 2016, 2020 and 2024 have been to pressure people not to vote.