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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Canada was never a climate leader.

Sure, we had a tiny carbon tax, but any honest assessment of the facts would include the billions spent on fossil infrastructure at the same time.

Carney has merely done away with Trudeau's pretence of climate responsibility. If we wanted action on climate, we wouldn't elect Liberals.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I wonder who the climate leaders were, by the metric of countries with significant oil reserves, then.

Costa Rica is kind of famous for getting to carbon neutrality first, but they had the opposite helping hand from geography.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We're not grading on a curve, and simply having reserves doesn't obligate us to burn them.

You can't call yourself a "leader" on the climate when you're routinely winning "Fossil of the Day" awards during international climate talks. That's not a champion of the climate, it's a villain.

Being the best of a list of villains (and we're not even that) doesn't make you the good guy. We're burning the world. We're the bad guys. The only area we've been leaders is in obstruction of progress, though we often have to fight for this title with the US.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Villains belong in stories; real life is shades of gray.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

There's no grey in the science. We're burning the world, and attempts to sound enlightened with platitudes doesn't change that.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sure there is good and evil in all of us, but the point of living in a global society is to integrate the feedback received from others and hopefully become less evil in whatever we have done bad in.

Ignoring the feedback is at the very least behaving like the villain - if we want to shy away from ascribing such potentially reductive labels.

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[–] titter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see cake, i congratulate cake. Thank you for being on the fediverse!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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Glad to be here!

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

It's an American website. Their standards are lower than the temperature in Nunavut in February.

Thanks for sharing - this is an excellent overview of...gestures broadly to the state of things.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Carney is an old school money guy and that is in his wheelhouse. Hopefully the ridiculous gas prices will propel and support the EV's, causing them to be included faster.

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Canada can be a climate leader.

Focus on responsible extraction and distribution of fossil fuels and insist on a commitment to move away from them from our main customers. Right now some of them need a bit of a break since a pivot like that doesn't happen overnight and they're dealing with insane prices from Donna's fake war.

Invest in and become a leader in what's next - don't listen to Marlaina "Melania" Danielle Smith - provide relief to the losses they will incur as we pivot and ban their aspirations for independence and focus on what's next for them as part of Canada - shut the other dialogue down right now.

Fundamentally we have been a country that digs shit out of the ground and still are - the pivot won't happen overnight and our service economy game is too weak to compete with the US so don't - do something else. This requires thinking outside of what currently profits our elites. So....offer them a new way to profit while divesting them of their current profit machine. They won't go silently and we aren't Socialism Now nor will we ever be unfortunately so let's be "responsible profits now"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

he was a banker, and always acted like one.

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