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[–] Aneorthisio@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

When you zoom out and look at the bigger picture, this is just the latest instance of ever expanding credit being converted into assets, just like housing, and reflected in everything down to groceries.

The structural problem lies in the very fact that we have, since 1971 and the end of the Bretton Woods system, fiat currencies backed by nothing tangible or physical, allowing for limitless expansion and by extension inevitable devaluation.

That money has to go somewhere to avoid being eaten by the very inflation it created, holding onto a resource that can be infinitely replicated, like currency in our present system, is a guaranteed loss.

The goal of fiat fueled VC bubbles is never to generate immediate, honest profits from selling a product to consumers, the goal is asset inflation and capital preservation.

The system is not broken, it is in fact working exactly as intended.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Like the subprime housing bubble.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Why don't they do this for every product I wonder.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 109 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This has got to be what tulip mania felt like right? Like we all know this is going to end badly.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Totally! Now let's go make a soda bomb!

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We, as a whole however, learned nothing.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

At least they still had some nice tulips in the end. All we get is shitty AI infecting everything.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

They kinda didn't, cause it was the bulbs that were expensive, if you planted the tulip you lost your investment.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except those tulips were a plaything for the rich and the fallout was contained to the rich, and with AI the fallout is going to be put on everybody else.

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[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When you say it like that AI sounds like one big scam.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 52 points 1 day ago
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The real reason is that the people running those AIs that they put so much money into to get where they currently are are well aware that people can just run their own models locally and cut them out of the picture entirely so they are attempting to monopolize the hardware needed to run it under the guise of getting ready to expand into the future.

Though the storage I think is more about wanting to keep a log of each interaction with their model for training and other ways to profiting from it (openly or covertly).

Like the whole "ai output isn't copyrightable" benefits them because they can just straight up use whatever output their models generate and it will be perfectly legal.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Not just AI. Many of these companies are also very entrenched in Cloud Services and have pushed cloud/subscription only models as a perpetual source of income.

By manipulating the supply chain to push up the prices of hardware, it's similar to how buying up the housing market allows incumbents to squeeze out competitors and ensure that they control how much "rent" people have to pay

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. I sometimes suspect the “higher electric bill” (near datacenters) is to force people to use cloud services, rather than a private cloud method.

[–] 6_Electrons@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

as an electrical engineer who consults for utilities and worked directly for them for about 10 years I can tell you this isn't directly the case... meaning they didn't raise rates to force you to use cloud services.

Now what might have happened realistically is the data center is using so much electricity, the utility doesn't have that kind of capacity available so they have to raise rates to mitigate the difference in energy usage and to also raise revenue to build more infrastructure.

Damn this just describes capitalism 101

[–] brem@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

DDR3 still works just fine

Been running that shit since 2009

Slots open still, 4 to go

32 gigs and I can buy mo'

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Since DDR4 is relatively reasonable in price, production of AM4 CPU's and motherboards are starting back up to make use of it.

TBH, I'm for it. I'm still on that generation of hardware and it still works great

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The problem is organic demand is going up for older gen hardware and that will drive THOSE prices up.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's why we only talk about this on posts that don't get scraped by LLM

[–] x264@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You need to be really optimistic to assume that this post isn't going to be scraped

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[–] brem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I can play Kingdom Come Deliverance II using DDR3 (and a gforce 1660 ti) running on Ultra, I don't understand why I need to replace my entire motherboard for clout or whatever.

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

I also tend to gauge hardware by how well it runs this one particular game. 😂 I’ll upgrade if necessary KCD 3 comes out, I guess.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I built an AM5 system because I wanted to ensure that if I want to upgrade it, I won't have to buy an entirely new motherboard. Coming from Intel who change their socket every two weeks, I thought it was a great idea at the time.

The cost wasn't prohibitive, the kinks ironed out quite fast. But I don't like DDR5 RAM. Like, it's RAM, I don't notice anything spectacular about it. What I do notice, is that it takes FUCKING AGES to post!

Startup finished in 20.971s (firmware) + 4.818s (loader) + 785ms (kernel) + 4.440s (initrd) + 7.741s (userspace) = 38.757s 
graphical.target reached after 7.697s in userspace.

It's taking 21 fucking seconds to do some kind of "memory training!" It used to be over 40 seconds! For what? No noticeable difference in user experience other than it taking forever to boot.

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[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think Louis Rossmann said it right: https://youtu.be/WpPIW4aeeag?t=699

tl;dw: "Fuck you!" ..."You have them for Sam Altman, just not for me."

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's irrational because this is being driven by billionaire techbros who think AI will bring them immortality.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the rich and powerful seeking immortality is nothing new.

[–] AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of the Ankh Morpork Pork Futures Warehouse.

https://wiki.lspace.org/Pork_Futures_Warehouse

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Bit ironic that the image is generative AI slop

… or is it?

[–] TacticalToothbrush@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am quite positive that it is AI gen.

  • RGB light (can be edit in)
  • RAM stick contact pins look too dense to be real
  • Thin CPU fan with big hub pointing down while cooler fin lay horizontal
  • Weirdly large distance between CPU and RAM socket
[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The smooth focus effect on the heatsink made me think it was stock photography but tineye can't find it beyond February so it could easily be generated.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aren't the ram slots also straight up placed wrong in the motherboard? I have never seen ram on a diagonal from the CPU before, or running parallel to the pcie slots, even on weird prebuilts.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, definitely. I was questioning whether or not the irony was actually deliberate, illustrating the end result of the fake money ouroboros

All kinds of weird going on with how the right hand is “holding” that module (while pinching another one behind it?)

Memory module is symmetrical.

No motherboard I’ve ever seen would have DIMM slots parallel to PCI slots, let alone that far from the CPU socket

Have a look at what would normally be the 24-Pin ATX connector - fewer pins, which is not unheard of in some proprietary cases, but the connector itself looks weird and garbled.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

… or is it?

Ironic? Or GenAI?

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Ironic - it’s clearly GenAI

The question is whether or not it’d deliberately ironic, the hallucination machine can’t even properly hallucinate PC Hardware despite heaps of training data.

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[–] chocrates@piefed.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How is it these days? I really need to build a nas and haven't checked prices in a few months.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Still horrible

[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

NAS

Decided to check the Synology RAM just for fun. I think they were quite overpriced even before.
Anyway, 16GB DDR4 Synology stick is EUR 1,409. What makes it EUR 88/GB?

[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

Remember when Synology decided to make their NASs incompatible with any hard drive not from Synology?

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Same as always, best time was last year, next best is now. Consider LTO5 tape backups.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

... by doing things that are impossible.

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

well they are mathematically possible just not necessarily economically feasible

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

TBF, step 1 was to take a shit ton of equity and purchase the small house sized machinery to make the memory stacks that will never be used....

[–] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

Tenet guys Tenet. Reverse Entropy.

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