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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 43 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Whoa, no way?!? Color me surprised when 85% of mass shootings are right wing Trump extremists.

[–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

It's higher than 85%. The data shows it's 95-100% depending on the year. 2022 saw 100% of mass shootings were done by Republicans.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 63 points 19 hours ago
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 78 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

We can do better:

"Make Liberals Cry Again" shirt from 2019.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)
[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

I don’t even see this as political, it looks religious. He hated mormons by the sound of it. I’ve always said that if Christians got their wish and everyone on earth that wasnt Christian was gone, they would just begin to hate and kill each other over whatever difference they find next. All the evangelists kill everyone else, they’ll then go on to start killing each other over the color of their hair or whatever. Christianity was born as a persecuted religion so they’re always trying to kill someone and play the victim.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

It's just Sneeches with weapons for all time. If it's not religion, it's race. If it's just white supremacists left, they'd wipe out the redheads first and then the blond-brunette wars will start.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

we've already had a thousand years of Christians killing each other over whether the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Godhead with the Father or from the Father.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

I don’t even see this as political, it looks religious.

It's almost impossible to tease these things apart, most especially within the radical right. They accuse another Abrahamic religion of not being able to separate church from state, and pretending to be scared of "Shariah Law" and then proceed to trying to enact xtian Shariah Law here.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

It's purely defensive for people to point to the politics of the shooter, I think. I agree you have the motivations pegged here correctly with religion, but Democrats are going to be wary of any shooter being used to justify authoritarian police state shit. Republicans are desperately going to try to paint us as violent, regardless of the facts. Look at what they are trying to say about the MN school shooter and how Kirks shooter was immediately assumed to be left wing before we even knew anything at all.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Sounds a lot like Israel right now

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Remember back when we could all agree that people who murder other people were likely mentally unwell and didn't immediately look to see who they voted for. Pepperidge Farm Remembers.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 20 hours ago

It's because the right is desperate to throw off the well earned shade that they cause the vast majority of gun-related violence. It's almost as if conservatives, who are obsessed on only have their world view validated through the the news, get violent when the world doesn't agree with them.

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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 239 points 1 day ago (8 children)

So this is a “mental health crisis” shooting, and not a “we need to round up the leftists” shooting. Got it.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nah, this news will never make it to MAGA. They're already saying that this was "another" radical leftist.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

It doesn't matter what happens anymore. Americas oligarchs spent several decades consolidating media ownership and constructing an alternative "conservative cinematic universe" where reality is entirely irrelevant.

The base has been indoctrinated with the fascist mental illness by their propaganda machine, and I mean that literally. Conservatives are now a mentally ill population, and de-programming them in any meaningful way is essentially impossible.

Whatever happens from now on, it will always be <insert any nazi scapegoat's> fault in their eyes, forevermore.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago

Because leftists drive bigass pickups with giant American flags and a gun rack.

Well good. Let them spin this. Then they can start second guessing eachother.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, this is a "Closeted Leftist makes a false flag attack" shooting. And if that doesn't work, it's a "Look at what those violent leftists made me do!" Shooting.

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[–] KatakiY@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

No it's another attack on Christianity in America. That's the line. Never mind they don't care about mormons

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 145 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A White Veteran with a Trump sign? This sounds like a RADICAL TRANS LEFTIST!

-CNN!

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@piefed.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I'm sure they'll find bullet casings with ANTIFA messages written on them (suspiciously in Kash Patel's handwriting)

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 7 points 19 hours ago

Did they ever release photos of the casings from Kirk’s shooting? Cuz I don’t believe that part for a second.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which turn out to be the manufacturer's trademark after a serious investigation.

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[–] thefrozenorth@sh.itjust.works 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There's no mystery here. During the 2024 campaign Trump promised the militias a race war - he didn't deliver because war puts oligarch wealth at risk. Now magas' are taking things in their own hands. That's why Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk: he was trying to kick start the civil war. Trump is desperately trying to appear war like for his base, while protecting his money.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 16 hours ago

Appearing warlike, inciting violence with rhetoric, and all the while saying "I deserve multiple Nobel prizes for peace!"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 34 points 23 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can't help but wonder if he thought he was avenging Charlie Kirk by killing a bunch of Mormons.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have read his ex was LDS and he held hate for them.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ahh I felt the domestic violence vibes from the description of the scenario. Scorched earth against the ex makes sense.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe they didn't mourn hard enough for him

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 11 points 19 hours ago

They get so close to putting the pieces together. One commenter said they were pro-union, because people can't make as much money as they used to ("a janitor in the '60s could support a family, vacations, etc" to paraphrase the commenter). Kind of missing that unions and pro-worker efforts are a big part of why society had gotten to that point of wages, job security, etc.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I looked at a random idiot's profile in that thread saying "we should be focusing on thoughts and prayers, not placing blame on politics etc...". Obviously a few days ago he was blaming "radical leftists". Shocked Pikachu face

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I get the reasoning for it, but this mad dash to "prove" a shooting is the other side's fault turns my stomach.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All shootings are the fault of the side that allows crazy people access to guns.

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[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Welcome to the world that embraces division. Difficult situations that would otherwise serve as a punch to the face to snap us out of our (woefully, embarrassingly dumb) stupor and realize we need to come together instead become a fervent race to figure out how we can use it to drive the wedge between us deeper.

Truly wonderful times ahead!

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Yes, yes, yes but we need to wait for kash’s magic marker to show us the way…

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Clearly he's saying "Trump stop", another crazy lefty /s

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Does the reality even matter anymore?

Pop quiz: can you guys remember the last 20 major US shootings?

I can't. I certainly don't know their outcomes.


Folks will internalize the first wild rumor they heard (indirectly) from Twitter or CNN or whatever before attention moves to the next shooting, and that's the impression that lasts.

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[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago

Another good example of low quality information streams culminating in an explosive brand of dissonance. I expect more chaos of this sort, as we deepen the idiocracy, and people go mad trying to reconcile their ideologies with reality.

I do see the logic in those atop the hierarchy pushing faith-based ideologies ahead of climate calamity. Should Project 2025 continue apace, I'm very curious to see how the various denominations respond to rapid environmental change. I expect a lot of them to lose it like this guy and fight it out. On the other hand, I could also see "faith" providing the blinders needed for a larger population to persist a bit longer. The faithful are also more likely to sacrifice themselves, so it could be an effective population control lever to pull at some point, i.e. Snow Crash.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] chisel@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago

That sign is clearly a paid actor!

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