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[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 106 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Alternative path: become an online grifter, make millions from being a degenerate, eventually get outed as a pedophile, convert to Christianity/Islam, profit!

[–] meejle@piefed.world 19 points 2 months ago

Ahh the Russell Brand pipeline

[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hear this is the path to become president.

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 44 points 2 months ago

there's a couple of jobs where you get to do both!

[–] plyth@feddit.org 39 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Don't underestimate the health risk of sitting.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 45 points 2 months ago

Yeah but “just stand occasionally” is much easier than “don’t breath or get anything on your skin for 40 years”

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

While this is true, the risks from sitting pale in comparison to the risks of industrial work. Also, they can be easily mitigated. You can't mitigate the damage done in an industrial setting much.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

fr. I have issues because of this, even though I've incorporated a standing desk for a decade.

you gotta actually move to make up for a sedentary job

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I worked construction and plant shutdowns when I was young. By the time I was in my mid twenties I had quit and went in to IT. The reason was simple. During my time in a union over ten of the old timers had died of cancer and other related illnesses. Only one of them was in their sixties. Over half were under forty. One of the best friends I will ever have died when he was fifty four. A month or so shy of when he was going to take early retirement.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I was a student, I wasn't really motivated and didn't have any idea what to do with my life. But then I worked as a window cleaner during the summer holidays and that gave me a very clear idea about what I didn't want to do with my life.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sort of related, in my last year and a half of HS I started a commercial electrician assistant program which was supposed to be like an accelerated apprenticeship path. I kind of liked it, and it legitimately the best pay available to a 17 year old at the time, but it was the master electrician I worked with who convinced me to quit and go get an EE degree instead. I distinctly remember the conversation where he asked me how old I thought he was, and I guessed he was close to 60, nearing retirement. He was 43, and he'd fallen off a ladder a year earlier, which was why I was doing all work over 8' for him way fucking beyond what your typical HS assistant would normally be doing. "Go to college" he told me. "I chose this instead of Mechanical Engineering and now I can't do the job anymore, with 20 years to retirement."

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[–] adarza@piefed.ca 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

i'll take the excel, but i'm making some scripts to automate some shit so i can screw around at least half the time

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I remember when I thought being more efficient would result in less work.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The trick is to not let anyone know you're being too efficient. Automate an 8-hour job down to a minute, say you finished it in 7.

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[–] adarza@piefed.ca 12 points 2 months ago

you must'a made the mistake of finishing something early or showing-off your 'optimizations'

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The trick is to tell absolutely nobody then poke your mouse every few mins to make Teams think you're still online while playing games or reading. Or so I'm told.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (8 children)

2 smart guys apply for an IT position: do you hire the reliable, hard working guy who never takes sick leave, or the lazy guy?

Always hire the lazy guy. They will go out of their way to find a better way to do the same fucking task so they can go back to being lazy.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If both guys are smart, the hard working guy will find a better way to do the tasks and use the extra time to do other work.

The hard working guy will likely spend more time validating that the automation works correctly while the lazy guy won't. Checking every detail, tracking down the source of any issues and fixing them so they won't occur again is a lot of work. The lazy guy doesn't do that.

What the lazy guy does could be done by an LLM, what the hard working guy does can't be.

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[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

I've made a career of automating excel (and away from excel all together).
I miss it sometimes, but then I need a bit of VBA again, and remember that I don't actually miss it all that much.

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[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Worked in oil and gas, we dealt with spreadsheets. One coworker had a tumor that looked like a neck pillow. He couldn't stop working because healthcare in the US requires you to have a job.

Trades pay a lot to look like tough guys and trades sell that tough guy image to sell the job for less than it's worth.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you want to get yelled at by a toxic boomer with a hard hat or do you want to get yelled at by a toxic boomer in a suit?

At least as far as the hard hat goes that depends on the trade. So many are so short handed that companies will practically suck dick to keep even shit employees. Toxic boomer managers in those trades tend to see their entire crew quit and find another job down the street practically overnight.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is not a very convincing argument anymore: with AI, there'll only one path left soon. And it's not the one where you sit on your ass in front of a computer all day.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Llms can't even do math. And odds on them figuring that "highly complicated" technology out before the bubble bursts seems low.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

It's crazy that no one has integrated them with a graphing calculator, spreadsheets, symbolic logic software, etc., in order to increase their deterministic reasoning capacity.

Like, human brains aren't just the language centers, so I don't know why the people trying to build an analogue haven't done more than merely trying to make the linguistic capacity more complex...

[–] errer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean the poster above you is wrong, they use math tools internally now when you ask math questions. Very obvious in Gemini. Yes the raw LLM trying to autocomplete the answer to a math problem is gonna be wrong but that’s not the way they are used to solve problems like that anymore.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

The LLM has to choose to use the calculating tools. Gemini tried to do this one solo:

4 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 1+ 2 + 0 = 15

Tbf, it did four of these calculations, and 75% were correct.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago

no way i’d want to drive on a bridge built on their supposed math

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[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 7 points 2 months ago

Some of them write and execute Python internally for stuff like that

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter what LLMs can and can't do well: all they have to do is do stuff a person does well enough for the price of the tokens they consume to make that person's occupation vanish if it's cheaper - and it almost always is. The metric companies use is cost, not quality. Because that's how capitalism works.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The bills are coming in now and much like all other cloud computing, it suddenly becomes much more expensive to do anything useful once you are dependent on it

It’s so easy to sucker capitalists with labor replacement schemes

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would be ok with robots taking our jobs if you could trust governments to pay us the taxes they charge the robots.

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[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (26 children)

You can 3d print a whole house with one technician nowadays even. So that’s not even true anymore.

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of you have gotten high off acetone fumes and it shows

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why not do both and become a farmer?

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

I used to work (well still do, occasionally) at an engineering workshop, and many of those who worked in production, returned back to school, studied a few years and applied back for the office job.

And those are great employees, they usually know their shit and appreciate the office work, still understanding whats it like at the production side.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Major in engineering and do both

[–] WeeneyTodd@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

As a guy who used to work in soil remediation and now works in air quality monitoring, I say: why not both?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Post AI, you only can stare at a chat prompt if you're very lucky, and now you have to inhale even more toxic fumes for even longer, because your workplace's CEO have bribed Trump with a million dollar. Also the datacenter in your neighborhood is humming at night, and you're now supposed to entertain yourself by staring at Italian brainrot.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

at least you can wear forced air respirators for working with fumes

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, so you can while working with Excel

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