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The former president worried that a new deal with Iran will be far worse than the one that was in place until 2018

Barack Obama is deeply skeptical that the United States and Iran will be able to work out a deal better than the one that was in place before President Donald Trump‘s first term.

The Obama administration reached a deal with Iran in 2015. That deal saw Iran agreeing to limit its nuclear program, in exchange for an easing of sanctions put in place by the United States and the UN. President Donald Trump withdrew from the deal in 2018.

Obama discussed the withdrawal and subsequent war with Iran in an interview with ABC‘s Robin Roberts on Sunday.

“It is doubtful that any agreement that arises is going to be significantly different or a significant improvement from the deal that we had in the first place,” he said.

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[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A deal isn't the goal here. Positive press coverage is the goal.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The goal was twofold imo

  • Drive up oil prices so the venezuela oil was a juicy investment instead of a total waste of time - he can't look a fool to his benefactors.

  • Strike israel's enemies. Basically the same reason because their pac funds a lot of politics and buys a lot of votes.

Ending the war with a surrender was probably considered better than a 41st or 42nd announcement of a deal being struck.

They knew the press coverage was going to be a big L, but fox will spin it as a great success and the "fake news radical liberal media" will be ignored by his base because they said something about trans or protecting the kids.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Threefold,

Dominate the news with anything that is not epstein files.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Fourfold: announce “peace” deal, stocks go up, sell and make money. “Peace” deal falls through, stocks go down, buy low. Rinse and repeat.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Remember this as well. Epstein was known for over 30 years. Revolution is necessary to get what you really want.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

This. One must remember Trump's main objective is rigging the economy to improve his investments

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago
[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe give you the first but the US was taken completely by surprise and railroaded into striking Iran. The utter lack of plan and resources to pull personnel out after the strikes makes that obvious.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The deal is a necessity for trying to avoid looking even worse. There's no 'looking good' anymore, it's about trying to make everyone hopefully forget by midterms.

[–] canniest_tod@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Correct, but it's coming from the wrong guy. Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen would like a word.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

I mean really did this fucker forget he was a wartime president?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Note that he didn't say that violent offenses didn't work broadly or were immoral, just that it was never going to work with Iran specifically, which from what I've seen has been a long-held perspective even among the same folks that were eager to bomb away on Iraq. Even people that thought they could do this with Afghanistan were more skeptical about trying the same stuff with Iran. Even as those same people would have loved it to be the case they could do this to Iran, they had to admit it wouldn't work.

So even for more warmongering sentiment, this Iran situation was still a dumb idea.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Right. But because Obama did a deal, Trump has to undo it and do a different one.

Obama’s presidency fundamentally broke Trump. His entire purpose for being President is to try and erase the Obama presidency. The grift is just a side quest.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obama kept trying. So he would know how useless it is.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many bombs did Obama drop on Iran?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

None because he wasn't that fucking stupid. He just dropped them on everyone in the region who couldn't fight back.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Say what you want about Obama (and I'll probably agree with a lot of it) but he's been the only US President with a sane policy towards Iran since Carter.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

I'm not crazy about Obama but at least his deal was coherent

[–] fira@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As the record holder for drone strike approvals, Obama would know a lot about trying to bomb his way to a deal!

But seriously, fuck the American imperialist project

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obama has not done the most drone strikes you jackass

[–] fira@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago

Damn. I guess all these articles are fake news then.

But if you’re getting in the weeds, sure, maybe Obama doesn’t top the list for “drone strikes while in office”, maybe it’s the list of “presidentially approved drone strikes while in office”. But you didn’t bother to list any sources with your rebuttal, so I’m not sure if you even had any actual evidence to backup your claim, jackass.

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What sucks is - Cuba is next. They realized their mistake - can't do much about strong country that has support, but can still choke off smaller country in our own hemisphere.
I think trump will attack cuba and this time there will be no ussr that can help. Before midterms, they want some victory to offset a defeat from Iran.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think that's a tough one.

Clearly, Venezuela likely served as an "I told you so" for some hawkish folks that felt we could throw our military weight around and we should try other long thorny issues that folks said we shouldn't try military solutions.

Iran conversely proved the conventional wisdom right.

I never thought I'd live in a world where Obama was the peak president during my lifetime

Well, not with that attitude.

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