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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

You kinda don't though. They're paying massive amounts to keep the Strait open, because of the powerful automotive and petroleum lobbies that control much of the US government.

Since this is a war of aggression on the part of the US, the US could just walk away from it. It's very unlikely that Iran would attack in the US.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Iran will just shut down the strait again if he doesn't.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The US could just leave and let them do that. The strait isn't even US territory

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The world economy, including the US, depends on that strait.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yes, and the US could just ignore that. It didn't stop them from starting the war in the first place, after all.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 hours ago

Yes, you may see an economic downturn. Losing a war generally doesn't result in sunshine and rainbows.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Right. That was basically their second sentence.

They’re paying massive amounts to keep the Strait open

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Since this is a war of aggression on the part of the US, the US could just walk away from it.

Which contradicts this.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 hours ago

US oil companies are LOVING the blockade. They're not hampered at all by the blockade, but they can raise their prices right along with the market. They're not spending a penny more, but are selling for much higher prices.

[–] Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It is unlikely that Iran would attack the US mainland but they could just continue attacking US military bases in Qatar, UAE and Saudi.

Oil is a globally consumed commodity, when the price of a barrel goes up this affects American consumers. The US has been using its strategic oil reserve to attempt to mitigate a politically damaging price shock. Oil price is the biggest factor affecting inflation that has begun to affect the American population since the war began. Trump does not fear the oil lobby who are currently making bank and, he fears an embarrassing defeat in the November elections.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 7 points 4 hours ago

But attacks on the US was never the threat from Iran. The US is extremely well insulated against direct attacks from basically all nations. It's the global world order that is largely run by, and benefits, the US that is at stake now.

It was: attacks on our allies (i.e. Israel), attacks on the global economy (i.e. continuing to shut the straight of hormuz), and pursuit of nuclear weapons (would drastically change the power dynamic in the region if it were to happen).

The US can not just walk away.

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago

The loser pays money. Typical for the Trump administration. Sadly it comes out of all of our pockets.

[–] False@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

In this case they literally could just pack up and leave the area. The US has limited targets that Iran has the capability to hit, and Iran has no real capability to contest the open ocean.

It's not like they share a land border.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

In this case they literally could just pack up and leave the area.

If that happened, Iran would have full control over Hormuz, meaning they'd get to extract tolls decide who gets to pass and who doesn't. Concessions would just happen by default instead of being agreed upon.

[–] mech@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago

The Strait passes through Iran's territorial waters, by international maritime law.
This gives Iran (and Oman) the right to enforce their laws in the Strait, and close it if that is necessary for their national security.
The US haven't ratified the treaty governing those rules, because they want to be the sole arbiters of what's "international waters".

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. The US could leave and let Iran do what ever it likes in the area. But Iran isn't likely to do anything to the US.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Except raise oil prices for US consumers and/or destroy the petrodollar.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

That happens even without wars.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah shit happens when you lose a war. Deal with it.

[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Something like 20% of the worlds fertilizer and oil goes through there when it's open. In the USA, crop yields will be down 5-10% for corn and i bet lots of farmers can't afford the increased prices. Some will go bankrupt, and I bet a lot vote Republican.

Oil impacts the cost of everything, diesel and petroleum for transport of goods,driving to work and heating/cooking . Petroleum products also include plastics and rubber.

Trump and Bibi fucked the global economy for a year, including the US

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to see a class action lawsuit against the United States government for needlessly raising the cost of living for a major part of the world.

[–] mech@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

In which court?
And who's going to drag the US government in front of it?
A demand like yours (aimed by Austria at Serbia) is what started WW1.