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That's fine, they're in the book of grudges.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Again, in America.

And again, your lives are in your own hands, nobodys coming to help you.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They didn't release them though? They only released select parts that don't implicate the pedos they're protecting.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Uhhhh the shit out there definitely implicate the ever living shit out of the pedos they are protecting. They are not investigating or charging anyone, more proof at this point don't mean much.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 91 points 4 days ago (4 children)

They have only released half of them, heavily redacted. The Trump admin is violating the law by keeping the rest hidden.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

the people dancing are…. congress

[–] grainfed@quokk.au 8 points 3 days ago

Last that I heard it was about 2 or 3% of the files, of which there are Terabytes, and heavily redacted.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

As much as I understand where these posts come from, they accomplish nothing other than promoting defeatism in a time where activism and action is needed.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Just gotta get the first big fat orange racist pedophile rapist domino to fall, then the rest will be swept up in a great wave.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Jail? Why assume the jail owners aren't in the Epstein files? Why assume the judges aren't? Why assume anyone with the individual power to stop this isn't in on it? The only way to make them pay is to take the payment ourselves, but to do that we'd need to be alright with both working together and enacting justified violence, and I don't know if either is possible anymore.

[–] ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's no real way of fixing the system other than just a supermassive massacre of the upper class at this point, right?

I've thought about it long and hard on if there's an easier option but I just can't get it

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 points 2 days ago

Not really. The point of a government is to be the big intimidating force that keeps would-be exploitative forces in check, but it's now owned and run by those very people. The second amendment was made for this exact scenario, because when the big brother protecting you from bullies becomes a bully, the only one left to put up a fight is you.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I have bad news: real way is to stop producing humans like what we have now in the upper class. Unless this is done, best we can get is a periodic cleansing, until next time of "well, things went to shit again"

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 2 days ago

You've isolated the crux of the issue. Those in power have long since realized that they can abuse your trust to 2 ends - they can exploit you while you trust them, and even when you stop trusting them, you tend to stop trusting everyone, making it harder for you to come together with your peers to rival the strength of the system.

The paradox we must overcome is that we must inherently distrust the wealthy, while still having enough trust in our peers to stand with them against the wealthy without fearing that they'll shoot us in the back. It seems easy to differentiate between the two groups, but it's surprisingly difficult to see 2 people with no outward differentiating factors, yet trust one with your life and assume the other is planning to manipulate you.

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 25 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Americans are toothless. Trump can do anything he wants and the only thing stopping him is his own failing health.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Americans are toothless.

Americans are hyper-individualistic, TV-brained, and alienated from each other to the point that nobody can conceive of a better plan to end this administration than to walk directly up Pennsylvania Avenue with a small-caliber pistol, square up at the front door of 1600, and start firing.

That, or hold a big march in the center of town telling the Gestapo to fuck off, and then I don't know what happens next because the national media simply refuses to talk about Minneapolis anymore.

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[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Land of the free and home of the brave was always a load of crap, and Trump has proven that to the world.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It is called propaganda, our nation was built on lies.

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[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Yep. And they will. Because the rich to not have to follow the rules that us plebes do. And that's going to continue as long as the middle class can shit comfortably, they're is not enough outrage to change that status quo. All the cope and seething in the world wont fix that until people start getting off their asses and well, we all know that isn't going to happen.

[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

to be fair 2 ppl did go to jail, one just isnt alive anymore and the other is in a prison thats more like a resort.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’ve seen a lot of stuff posted saying “just a reminder that the only person punished for Epstein files was a woman!“. But it seems like the people saying that forgot that Epstein himself went to prison and then died.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or maybe he's in Israel living it up and laughing at the goyim, who knows?

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Okay, by that token we don't know that the lady in prison in Maxwell.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being murdered to prevent snitching isn't justice, or even vengeance because it wasn't carried out by a victim.

It was the shitbags covering their tracks.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

That's not my point though. It's that he did have a legal punishment in effect.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

There are so many coincidences there that it's tough to know if either case is true

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Epstein files were just the sequal to the Panama Papers.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

It means they captured the mechanisms of accountability and disabled them.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

All of that in the files is continuing, not a thing in the past

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 13 points 3 days ago
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

These people have to physically exist somewhere.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Drones are still relatively cheap. You can still get your hands on a 3d printer.

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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's because the DOJ hasn't released any actually damning information. They released enough to fuel further conspiracy BS (ugh the jerky thing is so embarrassing for those morons that bought into it), but there's no way they are going to release our disclose anything that is doing to harm those they are trying to protect. That shit is buried or destroyed if it ever existed in the first place. Only chance we will see anything real is if Trump's folks kept evidence they can use as leverage or blackmail in the future.

Is the eating people thing false? Likely, but I wouldn't put it past some of them to do it if the opportunity presented itself.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the DOJ hasn’t released any actually damning information

Biden's DOJ played this tune under Trump. "Sorry, but we went through the last four years of files and he's done nothing illegal! Damn shame. Better luck next term."

It's just more bullshit. We've seen ample evidence to support the claim that Trump facilitated human trafficking for Jeffery Epstein through his Mar-a-Lago resort. We've seen evidence of money laundering and racketeering, specifically by way of extorting the labor of the women in their employment. We've seen mountains of evidence of conspiracy to commit tax fraud, to the point that they were outright bragging about it in exchanges. That was Epstein's whole entry point into the world of New York high society. We've had a string of testimonies of women in Epstein's employment naming individuals engaged in sexual assault (Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor chief among them).

There is no shortage of evidence. What we have is a shortage of prosecutors willing to pursue these cases. The fact that Alvin Bragg had to go after some small-fry bullshit, got Trump on 34 indictments, convicted him on all charges, and then had the judge wave the sentence should tell you everything you need to know about our criminal justice system.

That shit is buried or destroyed

It was printed on the front pages of the NYT.

[–] Pondis@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really hope that when I say "Yet" that it means something.

Trump is actively protecting paedophiles with the corrupt governments backing.

Fingers crossed in November the Democrats gain control and start making arrests.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Look at the last Russian 'elections';

Soldiers with guns at polling stations, barging into booths and assaulting anyone who didn't vote 'right'. Others stuffing the boxes with false ballots.

The regressives dont even need ICE to cover all bases, just the ones that they dont have enough gun-happy rednecks all to glad to help enforce their own shitty downfall in total ignorance.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 3 days ago

You know the most ridiculous thing I think I ever heard from the release of what we got, was there was proof that Trump had worked with Epstein to host "Calendar Parties" which everyone explained as pretty skeevy parties to oggle teenage girls who were 16 and that it was rough and all that but oh well...

Calendars only have 12 months. Like they sane washed the age so you can still be a little upset but argue it isnt that bad. They made sure he looks like a villain but only a small one instead of the real disgusting one they all are.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I guess I should have been more specific. I was talking about what the DOJ has released since Trump's second term.

As far as evidence of tax evasion or anything not related to trafficking, that's not what most people mean when they refer to the Epstein files. To me that seems obvious, but maybe not to everyone else.

We all know Trump is crooked and corrupt. He's doing it in plain sight. What people want is evidence of powerful and wealthy people involved in sex crimes with underage women. If any evidence of that kind exists, it's not being released or at least has not been released yet.

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