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[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 98 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Benjamin Song was sentenced to 100 years in prison and Maricela Rueda to 70. Savanna Batten, Elizabeth Soto, Meaghan Morris, Autumn Hill, and Zachary Evetts each received sentences of 50 years. Daniel Sanchez Estrada, who was not at the demonstration, was sentenced to 30 years on charges relating to concealing documents in the investigation.

A disgusting abuse of power.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago

Fascism by pedos

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

If theyre going to flat out fucking lie and disappear people like this, there is literallu nothing to lose by hitting back hard.

[–] la508@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Savanna Batten and Elizabeth Soto, two area activists, were not alleged to have belonged to discussion groups where the demonstration was planned. In Batten’s case, prosecutors relied on her black garb as a means to tie her to the conspiracy; in Soto’s, prosecutors argued that her black clothing and her operation of a small printing press that produced anarchist “zines” tied her to the conspiracy. Both received sentences of 50 years on Tuesday.

Fascism.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 20 points 3 days ago

What do you expect from a shithole country

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Sounds like they would have either been significantly better off, or at minimum no worse off, had they followed through and executed every fascist on site, leave no fascist witnesses.

Take notes. Learn. Do better.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 19 points 3 days ago

If you resist an officer of the state in any benign way. They will charge you with assault etc. If you find yourself firing on them, there is no forgiveness. Or no harm no foul. Even if you don't hit anyone, the state will still bury you one way or another. So yeah, once you start it. You better make it worth it.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I fully understand this.... Like apart from the punter who shot the cop, the others are getting an average of 50 years each for vandalism. Is that correct?

My mind genuinely cannot comprehend that. Like you don't get that for murder in most places.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Also the guy who shot the cop did it in defense.

The cop escalated by raising a loaded firearm first.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buried in this:

During jury selection that morning, local press reports said, around three-quarters of prospective jurors expressed opposition to President Trump and ICE.

This is a case in Texas. While grave injustice is being done in terms of the state’s actions, this is a good signal for “average American” and their reaction to these policies.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, also maybe explains a bit about the guilty verdicts in the first place - I bet every single one of those prospective jurors got rejected and the prosecution didn't have to spend any of their challenges to do it because being opposed to ICE meant they were "biased"

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Yup. And every juror that was sat either was a lying MAGAt or was just as naïve as one and therefore thought they actually were sentencing terrorists.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Both the defence and prosecution can reject jurors. So defence could reject anyone who supports ICE

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Normally you only get a certain number of rejections to prevent dragging out the process. So if being "against Ice" is structural bias, while being "pro ice" counts against your three or whatever rejections...the jury will be pro ice.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been on a jury. There was no limit to the number of rejections. It took them days to pick a jury.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Huh, every single state court system does things differently so maybe there was no limit in your case, but there is definitely a limit in federal trials, see Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 24, part (b) here - https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_24 (arc)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They want to make people afraid to protest, but it'll end up like 3 strikes laws...

If some idiot takes shit too far, and now you're facing 50 years because you happened to be walking past in a black hoodie at that moment....

At the drop of the hat in a heated moment, people suddenly have nothing to lose. People are going to start acting like cornered animals in the moment, because cooperating is worse than death even if innocent.

It'll be like the movie Heat where the hothead kills a cop, everyone is pissed, but the response in the moment is to wipe out all the cops because 1 dead cop is just as bad as 3 dead cops.

Once you cross that line, numbers no longer matter.

[–] ContactClosure@lemmus.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After reading about the conditions in the warehouse camps I'm inclined not to go to any 2nd location with those ghouls.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That's exactly why when they pivoted to "final solution" they hid it. A lot of Germans just legitimately didn't know until the very end or even after.

But even past Americans invading, people were being forced on trains.

I learned German from someone whose earliest memory was Americans ambushing her train to a concentration camp. She doesn't remember being forced on, because it was bleak but peaceful. No overt violence. But when they were liberated and had to run into the woods, it was absolute chaos with explosions and gunfire.

It's always stuck with me because it highlights how fascism succeeds; when people only plan for the moment and not the future.

The French culturally learned how to fight; go to the streets at the drop of a hat and you'll never have to choose between protest or death. They drew a line in the sand well away from fascism and repeatedly shown they'll burn it all down before shit gets that far again. So the wealthy don't risk fascism there anymore.

If people had burnt down Tesla factories a decade ago, we would be where we are today, that's a hard truth.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Trump is a pedophile and Texas gov Abbott pardons jury convicted murderers, no charges for the ICE agents who gunned down citizens in broad daylight, and collective punishment is a crime against humanity under systems of justice.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

That's U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman for the Northern District of Texas in DfW making this decision on the record.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 21 points 3 days ago

If ONLY they had MURDERED ICE Agents or RAPED Children THEN they would have had a MUCH Lighter Sentence!