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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh no, if only there was a way to know that Republicans would do what they promised to do? Who could have seen it coming? Who? An oracle? Or just somebody fucking paying attention!

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Were their lips moving? Who needs an oracle when you know a Republican is lying when their mouths open.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

I know you are being silly, but the conservatives did repeatedly lie about what they planned to do. It was supposed to be "state rights" but as soon as they secured that suddenly a nationwide ban was being talked about.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-many-abortion-positions-timeline-rcna146601

https://reproductivefreedomforall.org/report/report-the-republican-playbook-republican-candidates-lying-about-abortion/donald-trump/

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently they didn't give a shit at all in 2024.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The more I look back on it the more I realize 2024 was such an aberration because the Democrats ran such an unpopular candidate. Joe Biden really fucked us over by committing to running for reelection and the Democrats really fucked us by not having a primary regardless.

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

No, misogyny and racism lost you the race.

The American people stared into the abyss of Trump 45, looked away and saw a black/Asian woman and decided for the abyss anyway.

Even the ones who didn't vote chose the abyss because they didn't get over their misogyny and racism to give a damn to vote for their best interest.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's possible she may have inches pass the finish line if she had a penis, but it should have been a landslide either way. That's a failure, and the fault lies with the Democratic Party and their leadership.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

If Kamala was a man, he'd be the second black president right now.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the MAGA candidate was BETTER?

JFC, bear with me here, but shouldn't we at least CONSIDER the possibility that the most corrupt person on the planet, with the assistance of the two other most corrupt humans on the planet, who ALL bragged about how they were going to do what it takes to win, and who absolutely HAD to win this election to stay out of prison for life, and has cheated at literally EVERY other thing in life because he considers it his competitive advantage, might have CHEATED?

No, surely Donald Trump wouldn't do that. He's an HONEST MAN.

Dumbass Democrats.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kamala was certainly a shit candidate, and Biden did fuck over the Dems.

That being said, it isn't there fault Americans are so incredibly fucking stupid that they couldn't see the difference between Biden 2.0 and actual literal modern Hitler.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That was their job - to show the voters the difference between Biden 2.0 and modern Hitler. They didn’t do a good job at all.

And on top of their poor performance, machines were probably fucked with and a host of other ways to fuck with the election because Trump cheats if he can.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They're booing you because you're right.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for that lol

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago

To this day I don't understand why they didn't run ads blaming Trump for Covid

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump and musk both, multiple times, stated they stole that election.

You know it’s one thing to ignore random people saying it, but Trump and musk said it multiple times and nothing was looked into.

This is why some of us think you’re all sick in the head. That you can listen to that multiple times, ignore it, and then continue on blaming bogeymen.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

And on top of their poor performance, machines were probably fucked with and a host of other ways to fuck with the election because Trump cheats if he can.

Am I ignoring it?

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That was their job - to show the voters the difference between Biden 2.0 and modern Hitler. They didn’t do a good job at all.

My dude, I'ma need you to stop and reflect on how incredibly fucking stupid that statement you just made is.

Do you also need a lesson on the difference between a house cat and a rabid lion?

Need a lesson on the difference between safety scissors and a chainsaw?

How about a lesson on the difference between a sparkler and a fucking nuke?

The DNC isn't responsible to making people not incredible fucking morons. I don't see how people could possibly advocate for systems that demand the working class to take control, yet never look critically at nor place any responsibility on the working class.

Sorry, but that was a problem placed squarily on the common dipshit voter, not the DNC.

And on top of their poor performance,

How about the poor performance to turn out? We lost millions of boomers and Gen X from Covid and other natural causes, yet they still far out showed any younger generation in 2024, yet again?

machines were probably fucked

Wouldn't matter if it was too big to rig.

with and a host of other ways to fuck with the election because Trump cheats if he can.

Probably why young people shouldn't sit on their asses and actually challenge the obvious Hitler before them.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 37 minutes ago

Yeah man, telling people they're fucking morons is a great way to get them to vote for you.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The choices were raging bigot that was exposed as a pedophile and backed by the scum that the Nazis took note from, or not all that.

People who let the former happen through inaction are just as responsible as the mouth-frothing ingrains that go feral anytime you mention 'woke'.

'Bad candidate' is a fucking empty excuse.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's not an excuse, it's a reason. And a very big one. I'm not trying to give anybody a pass.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s not a worse candidate than fucking Trump. If he “won” then we need to have another discussion. Millions of us no longer want to live with these people.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I’m not opposed to the idea of Cascadia. But it would be a hard fought battle to do so.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Who is more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows?

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Found the mythical “swing voter”

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who me? No I'm a blue no matter who kinda guy. But you can't deny the reality that many are not.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm more of a, "Jesus Christ! AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT? You really make it fucking difficult. Goddamn SOBs. Fine. Fuck. Fine. Yeah ok. I'll vote for you. I hope you fucking choke on it." kind of guy myself.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The life of an Independent Voter. I hear you.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Yeah, well, "swing voters" tend to be fucking idiots.

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But they're not mad at their own party for promising for 50 years to do something and then doing nothing. Despite having the chance multiple times. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are just as guilty of Roe versus Wade being eliminated as Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate "Both Sides"-ism, but it's hard to deny when you look at the historical record. 50+ years since Carter, and we've had Clinton, Obama, and Biden, and not one of them got us health care. Obama got closest, with a REPUBLICAN plan. The one time they throw us a bone, and it's a Republican bone.

Add in everything else, Abortion, taxes, minimum wage, college tuition, housing, and more, and we've gotten literally nothing, or even gone BACKWARDS, with these Democrats, for decades.

It's like the middle management at your work. There's one supervisor that everybody loves, and everybody wishes they were on their team. Then there is the supervisor that everybody hates because they make every minute of every day at work miserable. Nobody wants to work for them.

But they both have the same basic job - to advance their THEIR boss' agenda. They accomplish it different ways, but ultimately they are serving the same agenda, and have the same objective.

That's the two-party system, and we should just opt out. I've been an Unaffiliated Independent since I first registered to vote 49 years ago. Neither party knows what I'm up to, and neither party can count on my vote. If you want my vote, you have to EARN it, every time.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Opting out got us Trump.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Those elections didn't matter because they were in the past. This election and only this election is the most important one of our lifetimes. If you can secure nothing over something bad, then after this Democratic win then we'll have time to start organizing for real.

You aren't already organizing? That's a you problem. I organize all the time. I'm just here on the internet telling you how to vote right now.

Also they couldn't have done anything because they never had a super majority with the president and the entire Supreme Court. They can't even deny budgets, we need some of our money back!

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You need some historical materialism

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

In a world of liberals that believe the bullshit it's hard to tell

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is classic Murc's Law stuff.

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The economy will always be the top issue because people have to eat.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They wouldn’t vote for Trump if that was the case.

The MAGA i know all were rolling in cash. Now they said it was about the economy but, actually, it was about hate. They hate their own kids, even. They want everyone else to suffer.

One let it slip they were happy they were the last to get a pension. “Haha yall have to work harder nah nah” that’s literally what they said to their own daughter.

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

The economy was bad under Biden. People remembered that during Trump's first term, the economy was good.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You guys see everything that's going on and you don't think they tampered with the polling machines? I think it's time to stop in-fighting.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The concept that the 2024 election was "Fair & Square," is the biggest hoax of all, but Democrats are too polite to object.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Complaining about elections is, after all, a January 6th thing to do.