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[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 109 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And they use the 3mil to buy a nice small house and outbid a working class family that currently live in a 2 room apartment

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

As a rental, obviously. No way they'd actually live there like poors.

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The oldest sale I could easily find was 1988, when it sold for $338,000 or about $956,400 today. In 1960 when it was built it likely sold for $15,000 and $22,000 so about $249,077 today. So from 1960 to 1988 it increased by 3.84x and from 1988 to now it increased by 3.16x. Wages increased by around 5.2x from 1960 to 1990 and about 2.4x from 1990 to 2025. In 1988 the house was 10.5x the average American families gross annual income. In 1960 it was 3.9x the income and today it's 36x the average American families gross annual income. I didn't really account for the area so the last part should really be done for California. Even today it's not fair to lump in the economics of somewhere like West Virginia or Mississippi with California. Either way it's probably more accurate to use the median instead of average.

[–] SpinItBetter@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

San Jose is not considered Southern California. It is Silicon Valley.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

visits silicon valley

no silicon in sight

mfw

[–] Art3mis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Its all under the skin

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you for doing this research! It's the first thing I thought of as well.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

You're welcome. I was curious. Pretty fucked. I redid the calculation for the median income of the area and the house is still 30x the annual yearly income. From 3x to 30x in 65 years is not good.

[–] Astronut@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing “Hallelujah.”

But you try and tell the young people today that… and they won’t believe ya’.

Nope, nope..

[–] BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

A Monty Python reference? In this economy????

[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] gtrcoi@programming.dev 36 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

My landlord recently told me how much they think the place I'm renting would sell for, and now idk why the owners even bother renting to me because the price is like 50 years worth of my rent.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because he gets a steady supply of money and then in 10-20 years it will be worth 100 years of your rent on top of the 10-20 they collected already.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The bubble could pop though and you lose out. The market has softened near us and there are people that have lost 100s of thousands in equity already, and are upside down in the mortgage

[–] ElegantBiscuit@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The bubble will inevitably pop as the boomers start dying and the housing supply relative to the population starts increasing. Plus no want wants to pay for the catchup work needed to address 30 years of deferred maintenance, so a lot of houses will go for cheap.

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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well you see, he can take a loan on the equity, you pay the loan for him and he doesn’t have to pay any where near as much in taxes. You’re just helping out a landlord in need.

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[–] outlawcarl@fedinsfw.app 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You should all come to my town middlesbrough in the uk my 3 bedroom was just £91k in 2018.

We have like 9 jobs.. so you have to share mind..

[–] Toes@ani.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How's the internet? Asking for a friend

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[–] chewypoops@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

$3M for 1,300sqft (120m²)...

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's absolutely insane. You can get a proper mansion for that here in Scandinavia...

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not much different in Germany either. What once was needed to buy a decent house is now merely enough for a tiny apartment.

I just recently sold one of my houses for 900k. Which I bought for 300k 25yrs ago. And it even was due for major renovations. Well, could have. Actually sold to them for 500. Didn't wanna be an idiot but also didn't want to rip them off. I did nothing of value to justify that gain. And they were very happy. Still unfair...

The market is broken.

[–] monkeyman76@fedinsfw.app 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"one of my houses"

Have you considered that you are the problem?

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Who knows all of these boomers scolding anyone? I've never heard one say that. Do I only know or am I only related to nice boomers?

  • It's corporations buying up all of the extra housing
  • It's price fixing the rentals and housing through software they bought up.
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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Some loud Boomers aren't all Boomers. There are so many I know who still need to work as they can to cover rent.

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[–] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You ever see the prices for a condo in the bay area? Its just as much as a house in some instances

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

My friend's monthly condo HOA fees in Mountain View are more than I used to pay on rent.

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[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Who paid $3m... wouldn't that be a huge part of the problem too?

It's San Jose. That is chump change there.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Asking 2 got 3. Did a corporation buy that?

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[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It'll never crash again. Private equity will buy every home and rent them back to us. Forever.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At this point, not without a bloody upheaval.

Not that I'm encouraging that. It sounds horrible. But still.

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[–] molten@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You still can! You just gotta really lower your standards for what a "house" is

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup. I'm down with a toy hauler rv (If I decay much more I'll need a ramp) and my favorite apartment was 500 square feet. I found a decent plot of undeveloped land near where I want to retire. An rv could get us started, and we can use our camping gear for an extra "indoors" room.

[–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Can you legally live in an RV there? i have some vacant rural land, but the county laws dont allow camping or RVs. They also ban structures until you build a dwelling of at least a certain size.

Not even allowed to be poor on your own land

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck me dead that is not a three million dollar house.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey! This is in California, which means it's in the communist demoncrats turf. You need to move to Goshen Hole , Iowa, that's where you can get a house for a more affordable price, and not be able to continue working in your career.

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[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Right next to cupertino. It's a $120k house on a $2.9million dollar lot

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

"Just learn to kiss some ass. That man has the power to fire you! When he says come in on Saturday, show up on Sunday also too!"

-- My Silent Gen parents, every goddamn day

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Something something avocado toast

[–] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Kill capitalists... I mean..ism..

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So...

"Kill capital~~ists~~ism"

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most boomers don't really know how money works. They only had their lifestyle because of American manufacturing and taxing the world though usd printing. We gave those jobs to China, and now the money printing can't tax the world as much because every country has been dumping Treasury bonds.

Even if we get the jobs back, the debt and inability to world tax wouldn't bring back the same level spending power. We would have to pay the debt back which would cause a 20 yr recession.

At this point, it would be easier to learn Chinese and move to the next world power.

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