Scientists have been raising the alarm since the late 70s. It's been 50 years.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2026
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"It's not real until I notice it" is, unfortunately, a feature of human psychology. The good news is that the evidence is undeniable now and more and more people are waking up to the fact that our way of living is unsustainable. There's still hope we can rise up and rein this in before complete collapse.
This might actually be part of our ability to think abstractly. Apparently prior generations (circa 1900) had a more difficult time with abstract ideas. I wonder if this apparent selfishness is more of a lack of capability
Dont forget big oil has spent an ungodly amount of money on keeping the general populace skeptical of reality. Punishment for that is long over due and I have no hope it ever will.
In a very real sense I'd say this sort of thing belongs in Leopards Ate My Face.
There are a lot of these people who are all of a sudden "Oh, this was not just doomsaying on the part of some radical scientists, this is a real thing." Now that they're actually experiencing the consequences of the last 40 years of complete and total inaction, they are expressing their regret. And, I'm sorry but you all voted for this. You all actively decided to ignore the problem because it was not affecting you at the time. And you didn't really think it would ever actually affect you. And now that it is, you're sad about it. And a lot of these people were even mocking people like Greta Thunberg for her anger at the complete indifference to the global climate crisis we were headed towards. And, to that and them, I say fuck you! We all tried to warn you and you simply ignored us. And now we are all in the same sinking boat together. And for my money, you deserve any and all hardships that you experience due to this climate crisis.
Gore won his election and the supreme court took it away from us. You can't blame the voters completely, at least in the USA.
And then you all shrugged and said, "this is fine"
Voting will never fix this. Americans elected the green climate change president in 2000. The establishment ruled the oil-cia failson got the job.
And a lot of these people were even mocking people like Greta Thunberg for her anger at the complete indifference to the global climate crisis we were headed towards
These are the types of people who will never admit that this was wrong. Even if they eventually admit that climate change is real, they will never apologize for that behavior.
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Well, I maybe have good news for this person... AMOC collapse is an anticipated effect of global warming and it would paradoxically make it much, much colder in Ireland. As in "Ice Age" colder.
When?
The problem with climate change models:
Climate science is science. It works on what's tested confirmed and very known. It is a method for being very sure and understanding pretty deeply before you speak confidently, and revising that confidence when necessary.
What's going on is unprecedented total destructing of an unfathomably complicated planetary scale systems from physics its difficult to model. We barely predict accurate weather a week out with computers, and that was before we scrapped all the sensors (defunded NOAA) and tasked all the super computers to making bespoke CSAM.
So there's a lot of things we don't think to include in the model, a lot of interactions we didn't even know were happening or how they would fuck up, and a lot of runaway feedback loops we didn't gave data to model. And a scientist with integrity can only add what they know is there. They can't add an allowance for 'shit we didn't think of, and we never think of everything' even though they reliably do not think of everything, because we're constantly surprised by things we couldn't model or didn't think of previously. The amount of co2 released when permafrost thaws was not included in older models, and if it had been we couldn't have known how much there would be before it started.
So the models, even the pessimistic models, will never be as grim as reality. They can't be. They're based on what we already know for sure, and 'we are looking at a flock of black swans' is not something one can model with scientific integrity. The disaster is moving too fast, with over a century's momentum.
This is an immediate existential threat, and if you do not exercise all violence your conscience permits against the people most responsible concluding every billionaire, extraction exec, congressman, right wing politician (jimbob down the street who rolls coal and works on an oil rig doesn't move the needle. Fuck him, but he won't move the needle. dont take his murder from the kids he's raping) you're not trying to survive.
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That’s the trillion-Euro question, and the answer so far is “between 15 years and never,” but some researchers have said they are seeing early signs of the current weakening. It’s a controversial topic in climate research, but it’s one of lose “low probability, high impact” events that can’t be safely ignored.
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Two days before the day after tmrw.
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It clicks anew for people every single day, my brothers and sisters
Still not gonna do anything about it.
Your nihilism is tedious, even though it may be fashionable
You're more nihilistic than me, you just lie to yourself about it. The systems you live under, that keep you from touching pure reality at any point, are all incompatible with fixing the problem. Nothing but a revolution allows the possibility of human survival, and as fucked as we are right now, the odds are still long. I'm doing the work. I'm doing the work basically alone and unsupported.
While you cheerlead fucking paper straws or whatever and call me out for not being cheery. I'd tell you to kill yourself, but looking at the numbers; you're well on your way already. Perhaps already over the edge, and just waiting to hit the metaphorical ground.
Now, ask yourself if I give a single solitary fuck what some edgelord on the internet thinks
You're doing a great job!
I hate ass kissers, you're fired
Obviously. Global warming is already uncomfortable, let's not add to that.
Yeah. Just build better air conditioners.
One of the frustrating things is people acting like they were engaging this discussion in good faith decades ago. They've gotten away with being extraordinarily selfish for most of their lives, and now turn around and go oops.
This had already been explained to them and they refused to listen when the whole world depended on it.
Is this guy better than someone still denying it now? Sure, whatever. We're still allowed to be mad at them for the damage they've done, like a vandal who suddenly stops and apologizes.
The petrol psyops really did a number on humanity
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Don't shame people for how long it took them. Be grateful for the insight they now show. Shaming them online makes it scarier for people to change their world view
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Yes, no surprise: this is what scientists have said for years now. Lets use some more AI, order some more stuff we don't need and travel to the other side of the world every holiday 😁 and and for god`s sake, don't vote on the lunes in the green parties that want stop this!
Whoever called it a "climate warming" should be shot in the head. Because yes, yes it is warming in general, but the choice to call it that was terrible. It's summer, temperature is below 20C today, my neighbors are saying "where the fuck is climate warming? those idiots said it will be hot!"
It should be called climate destabilization, focusing not on hot/cold but on extreme weather.
"Global warming" is the accurate term. So that is what they called it. Science is not now nor has it ever been about branding and populism. The world is, as a whole, becoming warmer and that is leading to the complete destabilization of climate systems across the globe. But the fact is that it is incredibly hard to predict the total outcome of global warming and climate change. So making predictions becomes a very dangerous game. And I would like to add that when they saw that the phrase "global warming" was not getting enough attention they changed it to "climate change" to try to be more accurate in a way that people would understand better (see the dipshit congressman who brought a snowball on to the Congressional floor to "prove that global warming was fake"). But then that backfired too because climate change doesn't sound quite so dangerous. So most people felt completely comfortable in totally ignoring it.
There's also the problem of the consequences of global warming and climate change are future problems that people don't believe they have to worry about right now. There's a very real "fix it in the future" attitude that has become prevalent in society. And the problem with that is, of course, we can't fix it in the future. Because once the destabilization of the global climate system starts, there is virtually nothing we can do to stop it. We may be able to mitigate some of the effects. But not the long-term destruction of the environment that we have become so accustomed to living in.
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We've known this was a potential issue since the 60's. The 1860's.
As of the 90's, scientists were saying that increased CO2 presence in the atmosphere could lead to global warming. The 1890's.
How to win over the masses, though? Most people know about climate change, they'll say it's terrible and something should be done, but aren't ready to make any personal sacrifices to do something about it. How do we get them to give up eating meat or taking planes
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