Nothing dystopic about this headline.
Fuck AI
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On one hand, this is great news, he's no longer here to be gross.
On the other hand, could these images have served as an outlet for his perversion, and kept his step-daughter safe for years?
On the other other hand, was access to this what twisted him? Was he reasonable at one time?
He did the right thing in the end, this was the best possible outcome for everyone.
The future is fuckin weird.
I used to sell trust and safety and it was scary then. Now they've fired those teams and I'm pretty sure there's zero moderation on the Internet besides Reddit
Every image Grok generates of CSAM is another reason to rightfully call Elon a pedophile for knowingly allowing it to happen.
Those idiots think this should be legal, but not when the civilians do it. Tim Sweeny probably is only piping up because he insist on posting the stupidest thing his brain can come up with every day.
In no way shape or form has elon tried to dampen or stop this from happening to this day. He just made it so only paid users not in the united States can keep producing csam.
And trump wants this. This is the mysterious Ai progress we keep hearing about, next to price fixing, and survalience. States are not allowed to regulate Ai, and people will tell you that you are a dangerous person for trying to suggest that elon musk should be held accountable.
We are not all here looking for the guy who did it or confused on why this is happening. Elon musk has created a csam generator and doesnt have to stop it. Instead he just occasionally has to send one of his super fans to prison for using it the way he intended to. All to say hes doing something to stop this problem.
7k images and videos is a lot to go unnoticed. Its almost like this is allowed on their platform and encouraged. This isn't a "we can't be held accountable for what our users post" problem. This is a elon musk left a loaded gun out on a table, and he should be held liable for not putting it in a gun safe. Especially when every single other mainstream llm doesnt have this problem. Its negligence to the point of being willfully ignorant. You can't tell me they can ban you for a single comment about Israel but all the sudden their moderation isn't the greatest when 7k images and videos where being produced?
One day Elon will go out the same way this pedophile did.
Seven thousand sex images of an eleven year old is a lot.
One sex image of an eleven year old is a lot.
I mean, I guess he was trying to get one with the right number of fingers and human eyes
Happy cake day, SatansMaggotyCumFart!
FUCK ALL AI
In one way, I'm glad he produced fake images of his stepdaughter, rather than force her to produce real photographs.
But this part is still very upsetting:
the harmful images, which he allegedly trafficked online in trade for “CSAM produced by other child sex predators.”
If those images could be made without a sample set of real CSAM, I probably wouldn't have as much of an issue with it, but some child suffered for that. In addition, they were intentionally based on a real child's face and that could come back to the child, makes it even worse.
that was quite a headline to be scrolling thru
More than half of all traffic flowing through Grok, Elon Musk's flagship AI product, now comes from users requesting pornographic images, explicit videos, and erotic roleplay — and a new investigation reveals that xAI made this outcome a deliberate strategic choice
xAI repeatedly refused to help cops or NCMEC identify the user
Well, of course xAI refused to help. It's not like they are one of the victims here, they are accomplices to the crime.
All the people who bought SpaceX stock invested in this. Grok is owned by SpaceX. It would be nice if journalists would put that in their articles.
The CSAM generator is in the index funds 🤢
If you're driving a Tesla, you are funding CSAM.
Lawsuits for this need to start including shareholders as defendants. Make investing in it a civil and reputational liability.
Lawsuits for this need to start including shareholders as defendants.
I get the sentiment, but ... they kind of already are.
Being a shareholder means you own part of the company. If the company stands to lose money from this lawsuit, then all the shareholders do as well. (That is, at least, on the somewhat naive assumption that a company's stock price has any relation whatsoever to how much money it has and can make.)
When the stock value falls, they’re not immediately losing money. If they sell the stock, that’s when they either profit or lose. As long as they hold on to their stocks, there are no actualised losses.
For shareholders and investors, the worst thing that can happen to them right now is the stock going down and having to take a loss on it. It's bounded by however much money they put into it.
If investing in 10 shitty companies knowing that 1 would fail manages to be more profitable than investing in 20 companies that don't degrade the moral fabric of society, there's a perverse incentive to keep investing in companies creating Groks. Making shareholders financially liable for the debts of their investments would introduce an unpredictable risk that could help change the equation.
This entire thing from start to finish is horrifying.
Yes, from Elom being born all the way to buying Twitter.
The story was probably pretty horrifying before Elon was born too, from what we already know of his father.
He killed himself because he got caught, not from any kind of remorse. If only Grok would have done the same.
(Obviously no CSAM would have been better but Grok's self-destruction would at least prevent more of the same, and take $ out of Elon's pocket)
why are pedophiles so prevalent in todays society? jfc
It helps people sleep better at night to think all these people are satanic monsters, but it's a mental illness that no one wants to admit to or talk about. Thankfully most of the afflicted control their thoughts and never take any horrific action. With gateways like Grok lowering the bar for experimentation with these types of ill thoughts, more people are starting to act in ways that bring this to attention. All technology can be used for bad things, but the good things these generative AIs can do are really so miniscule that there's no reason not to place strong legislative restrictions on them right now to limit abuse. That and maybe try to do something about the mental health crisis ravaging the US (and frankly much of the world right now).
I wish I hadn't gone down this rabbit hole, but (according to study data one in six people want to touch kids)
Reminds me of that chart showing left handedness over time. I'm afraid the implication is that there have always been that many pedos in the world, we're just getting better at catching it publicly or something.
A major company makes CSAM generation platfor and sharing network, yet it does not get seized or closed by any government entity. Makes sense.
It's for powerful people who are in government or paid off the right people. That's why it's allowed to exist. Until Elon loses his usefulness (aka money) and they need an excuse to bring him down.
That's my conspiratorial $.02
There's a reason why Ed Zitron refers to Grok as the CSAM generator.
Every time a Republican says "think of the children!" I usually respond with "you are. With your hand in your pants".
Burn it to mother fucking ground. Then salt the earth.
Really feels like Elon will come up with some nonsense about 'I let Grok do that to weed out the nonces' like he's saving the fucking world
I don't know which one is more disturbing, the pedophile stepfather or the company that allows these kinds of pictures to be generated in the first place. Though Elon is also a pedo who begged Epstein to invite him to his pedo island, so...
They fought way too hard to protect the guy and it sounds like they aren't even running a csam filter, it's the gang rape keyword used in a prompt that got him flagged.
Gotta love how Lemmy has a CSAM filter, but a multi billion dollar company doesn't.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Just turn it off at this point.
I don't think Elon want to turn off the CSAM creation machine, otherwise he probably would have some time between when he instructed the construction of the CSAM creation machine and now.
Grok’s metal has to go bye-bye
What a fucking loser hahahaha. Thank gawd he is dead.