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[–] starbeam@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

CCP bootlickers run Lemmy like reddit? Damn thats a bummer

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 24 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The thing is china has a bunch of legit cool stuff about it but its never even the stuff that gets highlighted and instead these communities just infinitely recite the propaganda that is thought to them. Its one thing to like china(which is already a red flag cause you shouldnt like a huge imperialistic dictatorship) but another thing to mindlessly recite it.

This is why I personally like to use the cool shit Yugoslavia did. Obscure by western standards and the only ones who get weird about it are Serbs.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 6 points 7 hours ago

I dunno it's pretty easy to think China has some really cool things but also acknowledge it's a terrible place

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] DoomProphet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago

What a brave take!

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I can see your imminent ban in my crystal ball.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

A lot of CCP trolls would say that the Uyghur genocide isn't happening and that witness testimony is from a one woman or couple of people who defected to propagandise for the West. But there is a point made that there are too many complains from hundreds, if not thousands, of Uyghurs to dismiss the accusation of genocide as merely from a handful of individuals. Because most people would rather get on with their lives than waste time making accusations.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Shitting on the CCP in any ML community will get you banned for "orientalism"

I specifically said the people of China are nice but the CCP can go fuck itaely

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I met couple of Chinese who acknowledge the party is tyrannical but they avoid delving deeper into politics. Despite having emigrated, it's a learned response I guess for many Chinese not to talk about politics.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I met couple of Chinese who acknowledge the party is tyrannical but they avoid delving deeper into politics.\

This is because it's illegal to criticize the CCP in China. You can get arrested for this.
We in the west talk a lot of crap about freedom of speech but don't realize how precious a thing it truly is.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

That's a totally understandable response. What's not understandable is denying any wrongdoing from the CCP.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. Ate a 3 day ban recently from /c/memes for exactly that before I realized I was on lemmy.ml/c/memes.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

c/memes is a cesspool of CCP bootlickers

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 55 points 1 day ago (23 children)

China seems to have positive and negative characteristics. For the non-rich it seems slightly better than the US and worse than (say) Norway. They’re still imperialist although they seem more inclined to use soft power and economic relationships rather than warfare.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Greetings from Hanoi. China kills Vietnamese and Philippine fisherman and other mariners each year using their paramilitary shadow fleet. China is also a big place and the difference between non-rich in a developed province and non-rich in the rural provinces is extreme. In the last decade, the size of the middle class in places like Shanghai has shrunk dramatically and was arguably never even on par with similar level workers in the USA.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 27 points 18 hours ago

The point is not that you need to unquestioningly think that China is the most evil country on earth. The point is that there absolutely are a notable subset of leftists (just wander over to .ml if you want to find them) who will dismiss literally any criticism of China as "Western propaganda" and basically act like they're absolute paragons of good. Those are the people being called out here.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out geopolitics isn't simple.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Unless we're talking about nuking France.

[–] Alfredolin@jlai.lu 1 points 8 hours ago

Maybe we could discuss around a croissant first?

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

Carful, France is the only nuclear power with an explicit nuclear first strike doctrine.

[–] caurvo@aussie.zone 12 points 19 hours ago

fire ze missiles

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